new endeavor--scope ring issues
06-16-2009, 09:25 AM
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Fork Horn
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new endeavor--scope ring issues
last week i got the new endeavor-yeah me-. anyways i have leupold scope rings/base for the gun. my scope is the nikon bdl(for ML). my problem (i think) is that i have medium rings. i am worried about the hammer clearance for hunting. very little room especially if i have a glove on. im more worried about letting the hammer back down. anybody else encountered this? maybee i should try another scope. i didnt think this thru when i bought the rings. i really like the feel of medium rings as opposed to the high rings. also i purchased the gun/rings when i was on vacation so im not going to exchange them easily. am i worried over nothing?
06-16-2009, 10:26 AM
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Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hayes, Va.
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RE: new endeavor--scope ring issues
Why is it when people buy something new, they refuse to look over the instruction booklet???????? This is one of he reasons this piece of junk is so costly, it has an adjustable hammer that can be adjusted to the side for just this reason, duh!!!
Sorry but you walked right into that one pal.
Sorry but you walked right into that one pal.
06-16-2009, 01:28 PM
#4
Nontypical Buck
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RE: new endeavor--scope ring issues
Unlike rafsob, I like my piece of junk Endeavor. He must just have muzzleloader envy... 
Sorry raf, you walked right into that one...
Seriously though... When I first got my Endeavor, the guy who sold it to me gave me the medium Leupold base/rings with it. I did not like them at all. I could have easily made it work but even with the swing-hammer to the right, I still didn't like how low it was. So I went with the Warne weaver style base and the Warne high rings. I absolutely love the way it is now and would change to anything else.
Sorry raf, you walked right into that one...Seriously though... When I first got my Endeavor, the guy who sold it to me gave me the medium Leupold base/rings with it. I did not like them at all. I could have easily made it work but even with the swing-hammer to the right, I still didn't like how low it was. So I went with the Warne weaver style base and the Warne high rings. I absolutely love the way it is now and would change to anything else.
06-16-2009, 01:54 PM
#5
Giant Nontypical
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RE: new endeavor--scope ring issues
Having a collected of stuff over the years I set my Endeavor up with different combinations before I ordered. I tried medium rings and found that while they can be made to work that the high works much better so I ended up with a set of high steel rings and a weaver style base. Works great, and while you can pivot the hammer to either side it works better for me with gloves on if it is coming strait back. Lee
06-17-2009, 04:19 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: new endeavor--scope ring issues
ORIGINAL: SWThomas
Unlike rafsob, I like my piece of junk Endeavor. He must just have muzzleloader envy... Sorry raf, you walked right into that one...
Unlike rafsob, I like my piece of junk Endeavor. He must just have muzzleloader envy...
Sorry raf, you walked right into that one...
Just like some blindly voted for BHO and now are wondering if they did the right thing, some are asking the same question about their Encores. Some people don't expect to have to play games trying to get their Encores to shoot any kind of consistant groups after paying a princely sum. After a year and a half I gave up and got rid of mine.
ML envy? I have more fun shooting my sidelocks then trying to fightwith an Encore. One man'sjunk is another man's treasure I guess!
06-17-2009, 04:34 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: new endeavor--scope ring issues
ORIGINAL: rafsob
I don't think I walked into anything. I just had a bad experince with a bad product. Didn't have anything to do with reading any instructions!!!
Just like some blindly voted for BHO and now are wondering if they did the right thing, some are asking the same question about their Encores. Some people don't expect to have to play games trying to get their Encores to shoot any kind of consistant groups after paying a princely sum. After a year and a half I gave up and got rid of mine.
ML envy? I have more fun shooting my sidelocks then trying to fightwith an Encore. One man'sjunk is another man's treasure I guess!
ORIGINAL: SWThomas
Unlike rafsob, I like my piece of junk Endeavor. He must just have muzzleloader envy... Sorry raf, you walked right into that one...
Unlike rafsob, I like my piece of junk Endeavor. He must just have muzzleloader envy...
Sorry raf, you walked right into that one...
Just like some blindly voted for BHO and now are wondering if they did the right thing, some are asking the same question about their Encores. Some people don't expect to have to play games trying to get their Encores to shoot any kind of consistant groups after paying a princely sum. After a year and a half I gave up and got rid of mine.
ML envy? I have more fun shooting my sidelocks then trying to fightwith an Encore. One man'sjunk is another man's treasure I guess!
06-17-2009, 06:59 AM
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2009
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RE: new endeavor--scope ring issues
I appreciate your opinion but an Encore is far from junk. Anytime you have barrels that can be interchanged you have moving/wearing parts. T/C sold so many they cant change the design now. Most people dont even care to tell you the truth.
The way for T/C to fix the ML was the Triumph. The Triumph is designed alot better, and T/C learned from the Encore to design the Triumph better. The Apex is no different. They learned from T/C'S design.
I really wish they would of made the Endeavor strictly a ML and changed the lock up. But they didn't and people now need to tweak it like every other Encore. No big deal, what's $50.00 bucks when you just spent $800.00
The way for T/C to fix the ML was the Triumph. The Triumph is designed alot better, and T/C learned from the Encore to design the Triumph better. The Apex is no different. They learned from T/C'S design.
I really wish they would of made the Endeavor strictly a ML and changed the lock up. But they didn't and people now need to tweak it like every other Encore. No big deal, what's $50.00 bucks when you just spent $800.00
06-17-2009, 10:37 AM
#9
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RE: new endeavor--scope ring issues
Any time any one has a problem we always hear about it. Now I have a brand new Endeavor, at this point I have done noting to it but shoot it. Now I have tried a lot of bullets and I believe that it will shoot best with FPB, SW, Lehigh and FTXall of those have shot under an inch and the barrels not even broke in yet. Now I will tweak it up because I enjoy doing it, but it won't make much difference as far as hunting is concerned. the other bullets I normally use 250 gr Gold Dot and the250 gr XTP will group under 1.3 inches and most of the time its more like 1.1.
I don't like the trigger but that's easy to fix and a really good shooter could probably handle it better thanI can I like a set trigger best. I even tried some bull shop bullets in it and while it did not do any thing great it did stay under 1.6 inches with out even looking for a load, I justput90 gr BH in and shot it.
I guess I am to dense to find all these problems people are talking about. I suspect it will shoot as good or close to it as the Triumph now that's going some. Lee
I don't like the trigger but that's easy to fix and a really good shooter could probably handle it better thanI can I like a set trigger best. I even tried some bull shop bullets in it and while it did not do any thing great it did stay under 1.6 inches with out even looking for a load, I justput90 gr BH in and shot it.
I guess I am to dense to find all these problems people are talking about. I suspect it will shoot as good or close to it as the Triumph now that's going some. Lee
06-17-2009, 10:54 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: new endeavor--scope ring issues
ORIGINAL: lemoyne
Any time any one has a problem we always hear about it. Now I have a brand new Endeavor, at this point I have done noting to it but shoot it. Now I have tried a lot of bullets and I believe that it will shoot best with FPB, SW, Lehigh and FTXall of those have shot under an inch and the barrels not even broke in yet. Now I will tweak it up because I enjoy doing it, but it won't make much difference as far as hunting is concerned. the other bullets I normally use 250 gr Gold Dot and the250 gr XTP will group under 1.3 inches and most of the time its more like 1.1.
I don't like the trigger but that's easy to fix and a really good shooter could probably handle it better thanI can I like a set trigger best. I even tried some bull shop bullets in it and while it did not do any thing great it did stay under 1.6 inches with out even looking for a load, I justput90 gr BH in and shot it.
I guess I am to dense to find all these problems people are talking about. I suspect it will shoot as good or close to it as the Triumph now that's going some. Lee
Any time any one has a problem we always hear about it. Now I have a brand new Endeavor, at this point I have done noting to it but shoot it. Now I have tried a lot of bullets and I believe that it will shoot best with FPB, SW, Lehigh and FTXall of those have shot under an inch and the barrels not even broke in yet. Now I will tweak it up because I enjoy doing it, but it won't make much difference as far as hunting is concerned. the other bullets I normally use 250 gr Gold Dot and the250 gr XTP will group under 1.3 inches and most of the time its more like 1.1.
I don't like the trigger but that's easy to fix and a really good shooter could probably handle it better thanI can I like a set trigger best. I even tried some bull shop bullets in it and while it did not do any thing great it did stay under 1.6 inches with out even looking for a load, I justput90 gr BH in and shot it.
I guess I am to dense to find all these problems people are talking about. I suspect it will shoot as good or close to it as the Triumph now that's going some. Lee