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Powerfisher 05-22-2009 11:47 AM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 

ORIGINAL: sabotloader

Powerfisher

it looks like you are quoteing me as saying....


Fact is I like the Lehigh bullets better than the Barns all copper because they will do the same job with out leaving copper in my barrel.
hope you check back and see that is not my statement...
OOOps, my bad. It was the first time I used the quote button and I guess I forgot to erase the Sabotloader from it. Dont lynch me, it was an honest mistake. I still need to know how the copper comes off a saboted bullet and fouls the barrel.

SWThomas, what was wrong? My quote from the wrong person (which I admit) or that the Barnes will leave copper fouling in the bore? Which I dont understand? Just trying to learn so dont be too hard on me.
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lemoyne 05-22-2009 12:45 PM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 
Powerfisher,
That was me that said that I reload and shoot some cartridge competition to and the barns all copper copper coated my .270 and my .223 barrels, so I decided I did not care for them. I found a wide variation in weight also, the all brass or gilded are better. Lee

Powerfisher 05-22-2009 01:07 PM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 
Thanks Lee. My reading comprehension isnt the best at times so the copper fouling confused me. Thanks for clearing it up for me. I thought that somehow I was missing the the tell-tale blue-hue from the copper. This post stirred up a lot of questions. Sorry I got off topic.

sabotloader 05-22-2009 03:07 PM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 
spaniel


I would think it fair that a SST/SW, Barnes, etc may shed some weight but is not DESIGNED to fragment.
Two things - I think the Nosler should be listed right in their also because the nose lead is not protected (not bonded to the copper) and is basically used to start the mushrooming process.

This is the best definition we have heard so far - of those bullets and I would even go so far as to say any normally accepted American Big Game hunting bullet.


Any bullet will fragment if you shoot it fast enough.
I would also second this thought into a difficult medium while it has sufficient energy...

SWThomas 05-23-2009 05:18 AM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 
Still holding out for the pics of the fragmented Barnes bullets. I have yet to see a barnes ML bullet loose any part of itself other than the polimer tip.

Grouse45 05-23-2009 06:53 AM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 

ORIGINAL: SWThomas

Still holding out for the pics of the fragmented Barnes bullets. I have yet to see a barnes ML bullet loose any part of itself other than the polimer tip.

I would suggest finding something else to do. The people that use the Barnes bullets already know the bullets mentioned don't have polymer tips. Also it was my mistake to even bring that up on this board. All information i posted was false and i have no pictures to back it up.

spaniel 05-23-2009 07:43 AM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 


ORIGINAL: sabotloader

spaniel


I would think it fair that a SST/SW, Barnes, etc may shed some weight but is not DESIGNED to fragment.
Two things - I think the Nosler should be listed right in their also because the nose lead is not protected (not bonded to the copper) and is basically used to start the mushrooming process.

This is the best definition we have heard so far - of those bullets and I would even go so far as to say any normally accepted American Big Game hunting bullet.


Any bullet will fragment if you shoot it fast enough.
Now I'm a relative young'un here so go easy on me if my understanding of history is off, but it is my understanding that the Partition is a relatively old design that was revolutionary in its time because of its ability to hold the bulk of the bullet together as bonded bullets had not really been introduced (or at least perfected) yet. At least that's always been my understanding of how things came about...I was probably 8 or 9 when I read this explanation so I may be wrong.

I would also second this thought into a difficult medium while it has sufficient energy...

SWThomas 05-23-2009 11:25 AM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 


ORIGINAL: Grouse45


ORIGINAL: SWThomas

Still holding out for the pics of the fragmented Barnes bullets. I have yet to see a barnes ML bullet loose any part of itself other than the polimer tip.

I would suggest finding something else to do. The people that use the Barnes bullets already know the bullets mentioned don't have polymer tips. Also it was my mistake to even bring that up on this board. All information i posted was false and i have no pictures to back it up.
Okay. If you were just talking out of your arse and don't have any evidence to prove your claim, I'll quit asking for it. Thanks.

burntmuch 05-23-2009 12:31 PM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 
Ya know SWthomas. I just went back & read this entire thread. I didnt see anything said b Grouse or anyone else that could have offended you. So I just have to assume you,re just a Miserable PRICK. Get a life dude. Pull the big giant stick out your butt, go kick your dog, fight with your wife or what ever you need to do, but lighten up. Holy christ you are just a big giant turd, in the punch bowl of life. Im sure this post is gonna get me booted ,so you boys be safe & thanks for all the great info. Jay

Semisane 05-23-2009 03:31 PM

RE: What are fragmenting bullets to you?
 

Im sure this post is gonna get me booted ,so you boys be safe & thanks for all the great info. Jay
I sure hope not burntmuch. If we were going to vote someone off of the island I would have other nominees. :D



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