Remington Genesis at 100 yards .. finally
 

Well the snow bank melted enough that I was able to drag my shooting table back even more. The range finder said 99 yards and 101 yards on the two shoots. That's close enough for 100 yards for me.

I started out with the Genesis shooting 110 grains of Pyrodex RS loose powder. I had the MMP blue sabots and was shooting 200 grain 10mm Hornady XTP's.



I think I have to work on the powder charge a little. Also the swabbing was a real pain. But it had to be done. And that walking back and fourth to check my shots.. well we put some miles on today.

I knew the rifle liked the Barnes 250 grain MZ Expanders with two Pyrodex pellets. When I went to town the little sporting goods store did not have Pyrodex pellets. All they had were Triple Seven pellets. So I got some of them to see how they would do.



Before I loaded I took "Simple Green" cleaner and swabbed that bore spotless. I then dried the bore real good. I wanted the Barnes to have a clean bore fair test to see what they would do.

The first shot was kind of a disappointment. I swabbed using a simple spit patch and then a dry patch between all shots. I was getting a TERRIBLE crud ring with the pellets. I mean big time. But I paid attention to the swabbing. The next four was not too bad IMO.

I then tried two of the 200 grain Shockwaves with pellets. I was surprised at first they hit so much higher, but I guess that makes sense.

I cannot say enough about how much I like this Nikon Omega scope. Clear, excellent eye relief, just a real nice scope to look through. And the Genesis with the Barnes combination would make an excellent hunting load.

After all my testing I brought the target in a little and got out a traditional rifle and just had some fun for the rest of the afternoon. When I came in I realized I'd been shooting for over three hours. But it was beautiful today. 45 degrees so I did not have to wear a jacket, sunny, a little windy but not bad. Just a nice day..

RE: Remington Genesis at 100 yards .. finally
 

cayugad

Dave that really looks respectible for first time shooting T7 pellets @ 100 yards... I have not shot enough pellets to suggest anything about them, but I would like to see a target with 110 T7-2f loose and that SW.

What about the other conditions, any wind or breeze while you were shooting? especially in the trees - If I remember right you are shooting in an alley lined with timber.

RE: Remington Genesis at 100 yards .. finally
 

There was a slight wind.. and yes it is a alley of sorts with woods on both sides. Over all this is the first time I shot the T-7 pellets myself. I have a lot more things I want to try.

I will kick the charge on them little shockwaves next time out. Just to see what happens..

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Good shooting Dave! But that Genesis is capable of much better. 100 grains seemed to be the sweet spot for mine when I still had it. But I was shooting Blackhorn. Any more than that and accuracy suffered for me.

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That's good to know SW. I was thinking of starting at 90 grains and the work up from there and see what I get.

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Dave - That's not bad but I too am pretty sure the Genesis will do better once you find the right load. I'm having good accuracy with mine with the Green CR sabots and 300 .430" XTPs. The 300 gr SWs were not as good. But next time out I am going to try them with the CR sabots. (remember the targets with my sidelock by switching the sabots?)

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IMO that is still a really good group at that distance,yes it could be better but that would surly do for hunting.
But we all know you will work on it to get it perfect.That gun really tighted up with those pellets.That is a great
example of how a rifle can be so picky,great report

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Good shooting Dave. Just as a point of interest those 200gr SW shoot best in my Omega and Triumph at a bit over 2,000 FPS and real close to on with the Omega Nikon. I realize that the Genesis may like a different load it might even like the 50/40 Crush Rib, you never know till you try. Lee

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Dave, you might want to try the Harverster 50/40s. The MMPs didn't shoot near as good as the Harvester's in both of my Genesis'.

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I never knew Harvester made a 50/40? Is this something new?

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Dave - You know, looking at that group again, I don't know what I was thinking. That is some great shooting. And, if you throw out shot "A" you cut the group almost in 1/2 at right around 1".
Nice job

RE: Remington Genesis at 100 yards .. finally
 

I measured it and with the first shot on a clean barrel it was an inch and a half. Without that just around an inch. So I was pleased with the Barnes. I am going to take some of the suggestions here and see if I can make them little 200 grain 10mm XTP's do better.

Not only that, them Barnes are such a pleasure to load. I am glad now I bought the store out of all they had on sale.

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Good shooting, Cayugad.The .50/.40 Harvester crush rib sabot:


http://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=fl ypage.tpl&product_id=45&category_id=7& option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=3

RE: Remington Genesis at 100 yards .. finally
 

Nice report Dave and also some nice shooting. I have yet to try pellets. I just like the loose powder I guess. Maybe I will breakdown and try some.

I know what you mean about the Barnes saboted bullets. They are my go to bullets for the field.

RE: Remington Genesis at 100 yards .. finally
 

They've been out for a little while. I hunted with them last fall. Their website is now set up to take orders as well.

Link

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I bought pellets more as a gimmick. At the end of the season sale at Wal Mart instead of $28.00 they were $14.00 and I figured ... what the heck. I've dropped more then that down a urnial on a Friday night at the local watering hole. Those were Pyrodex RS pellets and the Genesis just loved them.

So when I wanted to see if the Omega and some other bullets would be long range ready, I thought of pellets again. But this time Wal Mart don't stock any until season (who determines their season..), and the little sporting goods store had me over a barrel. $30.00 I think it was for a box of them Triple Seven pellets. But its fun to try different things..

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All "minute of deer" when ya look at it.

Good shooting. You will tighten 'em up I'm sure.

Thanks for the report.

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I am glad you like the Nikon Omega. I decided to go with the Leupold Ultimate Slam. It is basically the same scope for about the same price, but I selected the Ultimate Slam because I am pretty much a Leupold man.

I have yet to set up the loads for the differenet distances. My biggest problems is finding a place to shoot out to anything longer then 100 yds. I had a friend place that we could shoot out to 250, but that place is unavailable now.

My next rangeproject willbeto shoot the new Knight Vision out to 100 yds, using different bullets and powders. ;)

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Nice report and shooting Dave as always, I bought my Genesis after reading a few of your reports and mine liked pellets as well. Both 100g and 150g with sw 250.
What about the ram rod kind of cheap and short for my tastes. Crud ring not so bad for me(swabing between everyother shot) although i put alot of force to seat bullets to marking on ram rod. Maybe superglides are the ticket for 777?

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I have to agree, that ramrod leaves a lot to be desired. Although when I checked loads the other day, if the two pellets are in and a Barnes ontop.. that ramrod without being taken apart, just sticks out the end of the barrel. So at least it can act as a witness mark when I hunt. And if I get a shot at something.. I don't plan on reloading.;)

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I still haven't sighted mine in yet. I need to. I sighted the open sights in for 60 yards with 150 grains of pellets and 295 grain Powerbelt Hollow point but I'm dropping back to 100 grains of powder and need to sight the Leupold scope in.

At first I didn't think that shooting was very good but after I looked again at how small of a group it was it looks pretty good.

I'm hoping mine shoots well.

My old muzzle loader which was a Marlin MLS-50 did this at 100 yards with 100 grain Pyrodex pellets and a 295 grain Powerbelt Hollow Point. I was happy with it.



I think that just looks like it's a tighter group because of the yellow around the holes. Yours looks about like that to me after looking a second time.