which muzzleloader too buy?
#51
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
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RE: Which Muzzleloader too buy??
Did you ever get your Mustang back Semi?
The Lyman website says that for warranty repairs "Your Lyman product will be repaired or replaced and returned to you within 30 days of our receipt" (so I figured six weeks). I would assume the same time frame would apply to "out of warranty" repairs. It also says that for out of warranty repairs"Appropriate charges will apply for parts and labor. Estimates are available only when the item has been thoroughly inspected by our repair personnel." But I haven't heard from themyet about an estimate.
Here's the funny (sad?)thing. About a week ago Lyman changed their web page to eliminate the Mustang from the list of guns to send to Dixon ML for factory repair (after my second e-mailinforming them that Dixonsays they repairsidelocks only), but they didn't add anything about where to send a Mustang. You have to assume it's to be sent to theMiddletown address they use for all "other" Lyman products.Maybe they don't handle the Mustang in Middletown either, and had to send it back to Italy.
Anyway, if I don't hear anything in another week or twoI'll be making some phone calls. I've hesitated to bug them considering the possibility that they may be repairing it with no charge.
#52
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
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RE: Which Muzzleloader too buy??
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I decided Im going with the CVA ACCURA Realtreee with Nikon Omega BDC ordering it tomorrow through the local shop. (cheaper)
Now for you guys that shoot it what are you packen?? A guy at cabellas that has the gun shoots:
100 Grain Tripple 7 pellets
300 Grain Powerbelt Platinum
Tripple 7 priemer ( i think)
I decided Im going with the CVA ACCURA Realtreee with Nikon Omega BDC ordering it tomorrow through the local shop. (cheaper)
Now for you guys that shoot it what are you packen?? A guy at cabellas that has the gun shoots:
100 Grain Tripple 7 pellets
300 Grain Powerbelt Platinum
Tripple 7 priemer ( i think)
First cost. Is cost a big consideration for you? Are you going to be shooting the rilfe a lot say 1/week 20 times an outing?
What will be your longest shot you would like to take?
How important is terminal performance, choices:
want DRT
want dead within 20 yards
willing to track a ways 50 yards
will to track 100 yards
willing to track up to 250 yards
Would you choose a bullet that penetrates better over a bullet that is more accurate, or would you choose the bullet that is most accurate all the time?
Put a number beside how important each factor is to you
accuracy
expansion
shoot thru
penetration
Most people would rank accuracy 1, penetration 2, expansion 3 and shoot thru 4, what would be your ranking of these factors in importance?
Once you do these we can suggest a bullet that will fit your needs.
Example, i want a bullet that is not costly, shoots 150 yards, is accurate as heck, expands well, provides shoot thru and has excellent penetration, tracking up to say 50 yards.I would say the 300gGold Dotwith 110g of Blackhorn with Win Primers and sabot that fits the bore of that gun. A 250g Gold Dot would work, also a 300g XTP would work. Sight in 2.5 to 3" high at 100.
Chap
Chap
#53
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Iowa
Posts: 380
RE: Which Muzzleloader too buy??
First cost. Is cost a big consideration for you? No Are you going to be shooting the rilfe a lot say 1/week 20 times an outing? Not much just sighting in and then hunting with it! Id say 20 times per outing sighting in
What will be your longest shot you would like to take? at most 200 yds
How important is terminal performance, choices:
want DRT
want dead within 20 yards
willing to track a ways 50 yards
will to track 100 yards *****
willing to track up to 250 yards
Would you choose a bullet that penetrates better over a bullet that is more accurate, or would you choose the bullet that is most accurate all the time? bullet that is most accurate all the time?
Put a number beside how important each factor is to you
accuracy 1
expansion 3
shoot thru 4
penetration 2
Most people would rank accuracy 1, penetration 2, expansion 3 and shoot thru 4, what would be your ranking of these factors in importance?
Once you do these we can suggest a bullet that will fit your needs.
Example, i want a bullet that is not costly, shoots 150 yards, is accurate as heck, expands well, provides shoot thru and has excellent penetration, tracking up to say 50 yards.I would say the 300gGold Dotwith 110g of Blackhorn with Win Primers and sabot that fits the bore of that gun. A 250g Gold Dot would work, also a 300g XTP would work. Sight in 2.5 to 3" high at 100.
Chap
Chap
I wanna stay with the pellets if I can since just starting out may be easier!!
What will be your longest shot you would like to take? at most 200 yds
How important is terminal performance, choices:
want DRT
want dead within 20 yards
willing to track a ways 50 yards
will to track 100 yards *****
willing to track up to 250 yards
Would you choose a bullet that penetrates better over a bullet that is more accurate, or would you choose the bullet that is most accurate all the time? bullet that is most accurate all the time?
Put a number beside how important each factor is to you
accuracy 1
expansion 3
shoot thru 4
penetration 2
Most people would rank accuracy 1, penetration 2, expansion 3 and shoot thru 4, what would be your ranking of these factors in importance?
Once you do these we can suggest a bullet that will fit your needs.
Example, i want a bullet that is not costly, shoots 150 yards, is accurate as heck, expands well, provides shoot thru and has excellent penetration, tracking up to say 50 yards.I would say the 300gGold Dotwith 110g of Blackhorn with Win Primers and sabot that fits the bore of that gun. A 250g Gold Dot would work, also a 300g XTP would work. Sight in 2.5 to 3" high at 100.
Chap
Chap
I wanna stay with the pellets if I can since just starting out may be easier!!
#54
RE: Which Muzzleloader too buy??
The BDC reticle was specifically designed for 150g of T7 pellets and a 250g Shockwave. But you don't have to shoot that load if you buy a BDC scope. Just pick a load you like and then figure out where you need to aim to hit where you want. It's that simple. Test, test, and then test again.
#55
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 986
RE: Which Muzzleloader too buy??
[quote]ORIGINAL: IOWAWHITETAILS
I decided Im going with the CVA ACCURA Realtreee with Nikon Omega BDC ordering it tomorrow through the local shop. (cheaper)
Congradulations; of the three you narrowed your choice down this is the one I would have picked also. I am pretty sure the Accura has the Bergara barrel and in my opinon there is not another barrel that is any better. I have read the procedures that Bergara uses to make those barrels and they have added honeing processes that others do not use. I also like the action on the Accura although I do not have one yet (notice I said yet).
I decided Im going with the CVA ACCURA Realtreee with Nikon Omega BDC ordering it tomorrow through the local shop. (cheaper)
Congradulations; of the three you narrowed your choice down this is the one I would have picked also. I am pretty sure the Accura has the Bergara barrel and in my opinon there is not another barrel that is any better. I have read the procedures that Bergara uses to make those barrels and they have added honeing processes that others do not use. I also like the action on the Accura although I do not have one yet (notice I said yet).
#57
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 552
RE: Which Muzzleloader too buy??
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Have two Accura, both are excellent shooters and don't seem very picky about loads. I would recommend Blackhorn 209 for that rifle.
Have two Accura, both are excellent shooters and don't seem very picky about loads. I would recommend Blackhorn 209 for that rifle.
+1
I shoot BH 209 out of my Accura and several different loads. All good!
#58
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
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RE: Which Muzzleloader too buy??
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First cost. Is cost a big consideration for you? No Are you going to be shooting the rilfe a lot say 1/week 20 times an outing? Not much just sighting in and then hunting with it! Id say 20 times per outing sighting in
What will be your longest shot you would like to take? at most 200 yds
How important is terminal performance, choices:
want DRT
want dead within 20 yards
willing to track a ways 50 yards
will to track 100 yards *****
willing to track up to 250 yards
Would you choose a bullet that penetrates better over a bullet that is more accurate, or would you choose the bullet that is most accurate all the time? bullet that is most accurate all the time?
Put a number beside how important each factor is to you
accuracy 1
expansion 3
shoot thru 4
penetration 2
Most people would rank accuracy 1, penetration 2, expansion 3 and shoot thru 4, what would be your ranking of these factors in importance?
Once you do these we can suggest a bullet that will fit your needs.
Example, i want a bullet that is not costly, shoots 150 yards, is accurate as heck, expands well, provides shoot thru and has excellent penetration, tracking up to say 50 yards.I would say the 300gGold Dotwith 110g of Blackhorn with Win Primers and sabot that fits the bore of that gun. A 250g Gold Dot would work, also a 300g XTP would work. Sight in 2.5 to 3" high at 100.
Chap
Chap
I wanna stay with the pellets if I can since just starting out may be easier!!
First cost. Is cost a big consideration for you? No Are you going to be shooting the rilfe a lot say 1/week 20 times an outing? Not much just sighting in and then hunting with it! Id say 20 times per outing sighting in
What will be your longest shot you would like to take? at most 200 yds
How important is terminal performance, choices:
want DRT
want dead within 20 yards
willing to track a ways 50 yards
will to track 100 yards *****
willing to track up to 250 yards
Would you choose a bullet that penetrates better over a bullet that is more accurate, or would you choose the bullet that is most accurate all the time? bullet that is most accurate all the time?
Put a number beside how important each factor is to you
accuracy 1
expansion 3
shoot thru 4
penetration 2
Most people would rank accuracy 1, penetration 2, expansion 3 and shoot thru 4, what would be your ranking of these factors in importance?
Once you do these we can suggest a bullet that will fit your needs.
Example, i want a bullet that is not costly, shoots 150 yards, is accurate as heck, expands well, provides shoot thru and has excellent penetration, tracking up to say 50 yards.I would say the 300gGold Dotwith 110g of Blackhorn with Win Primers and sabot that fits the bore of that gun. A 250g Gold Dot would work, also a 300g XTP would work. Sight in 2.5 to 3" high at 100.
Chap
Chap
I wanna stay with the pellets if I can since just starting out may be easier!!
275g Parker Ballistic Extreme and the
300g Barnes T-EZ
pick whichever is most accurate in your gun. I think both will be accurate, and if they both are equally as accurate, I would choose the 300g Barnes because there would be no weight loss and deeper penetration. I do believe, based on my experience that the Parker will be more accurate, and that was your number 1 criteria. They just shoot well in about every gun, they are expensive.
Both of these bullets will get you to 200 yards no problem and with your BDC scope, I am sure you can shoot 250 accurately. Chap