Knight Vision
 

This is my first post, but I have really enjoyed reading the messages on this forum and I have learned a great deal.

Was wondering if anyone has an opinion regarding the Knight Vision: good, bad or indifferent.

RE: Knight Vision
 

Gloomy Gus

Hey! welcome to the forum it is an assume place - tons of different thoughts and information... take what might help you and leave what you do not want...

From the repaorts we are hearing lately - Knight has re-designed the breech plug to have the ability to shoot BH + no blow back residue in the breech area. The best thing about it - it will come with a GM barrel.

RE: Knight Vision
 

Gloomy Gus...

It's a Knight. It has a Green Mountain Barrel. It has a Timney trigger. And Knight has an excellent service department, reputation for quality, and willingness to help you with any problem you might have.

Like Sabotloader said, it was made to shoot BlackHorn209 if that's your game, but it will shoot any kind of powder (other then smokeless) and since it is a Knight it will be accurate. They guarantee it. Although they guarantee it with their bullets. But really, Knights shoot almost anything real good.

Welcome to the forum. Feel free to ask questions, as there is always someone willing to answer. Whether we are right is another thing, but we will sure try... :D

RE: Knight Vision
 

Thanks for the welcome and the information.Had not seen much by way of reviews for the Vision (maybe that means it's a good design and there are no complaints), but this certainly helps.

RE: Knight Vision
 

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=3359492

RE: Knight Vision
 

Gloomy Gus,

Leave this forum now.........I have to tell you about the disease you get here its called........I need more......
I started like you reading and learning and now I need more ML's
5 isn't enough for me and many people here have the disease alot worse than me so leave........I have warned you.........Lol

RE: Knight Vision
 

Jaybez101099 - Warning understood and point well taken!Will probablynot resist the disease too well. Fortunately, mywife is understanding of the malady, although I probably would not get away with "one of every design and type".

RE: Knight Vision
 

Welcome to the site!

RE: Knight Vision
 

Shoot it! Range report please! I just got mine last night:)
WOW what a smooth light and NICE trigger! Now I have to mount a scope on it. I have the scope from SO still in transit,but I am thinking about putting my Tasco 2.5-10 x 42 mill dot on it. I noticed the breech plug was flat but in the video with the gun it seemed like the plug was convex. I also noticed the blackhorn 209 was not listed for this gun. Not that I have any- just a few pounds of t7. If i get the scope on today I am going to the local range and try to run some 240 grain and loose powder to see what it will do. I will post some pics when I come back from the range.

RE: Knight Vision
 

Looks like you got the redesigned breech plug... which is good for BH209.

See the link Grouse posted a few posts up for details.

And welcome to the forum.;)

RE: Knight Vision
 

Gloomy Gus
Welcome to the Forum.
You have an interesting choice to make, the Triumph has been regarded by some of us as the gun with the most potential ever marketed, now comes the new Knight Vision, is it as good? is it better? Knight has always made excellent high quality guns and this may be their best.
What every you do let us know how its going. If you have any questions be sure to ask some one here will do there best to give you the answer you need. Lee

RE: Knight Vision
 

Welcome to the forum.

Got mine last week and have since ordered and installed a Leupold Ultimate Slam scope. Have yet to shoot it, but hopefully I will on Wednesday. I have seen many good things said about it and am hopeful it will live up to there accolades. This is my baby:



If you notice I used a set of Weaver rings with an offset. The gun is advertized as a 14.5" L.O.P, which it is not. To get a good eye relief I used these rings to get a better setup. The rings gives me close to an inch and the Leupold gives me 4.7" eye relief. It works for me. I guess I couldhave cut down the stock, but the other way was easier.

RE: Knight Vision
 

Will look forward to the range report.

The Knights seem to have some innovative design features and from all reports the quality of materials is first rate - but I have read of some problems with the rolling block. Was very close to ordering one when I read about some issues with ignition.

range report (sort of cause of no pictures)
 

Took the Vision to the range and put some down range.
Had to fiddle with the bench cause the frost heaved it up in the back It was kind of wobbly, but I shot anyway. I was using a boresite at 25yd then went to the 50 yard range. I was using the Vari-Flame adapters with CCI small rifle primers instead of the 209 shot shell primers.
1st round CLICK no boom,the second time I pulled the trigger- CLICK no boom
3rd time a charm 4 inches high and 1/2" to the left. 2nd shot 2.5 high and 1.5 to the left. 3rd 2 inches high and 1/2 to the left.(3ftf on the 3rd so I changed out the primer for another) 4th 2.75 high and 1/2 to right (2ftf) 5th 2" high and 1/2 to right. I made no adjustments to the scope cause I figured the bench was still a little wobbly. No fouling shots and swabbed bore with wet patch the dry patch between shots. I noticed good crud ring with the t7 100 grain load. Was using 240gn xtp with black sabot. I think this rifle will be a good shooting tool. sorry about the lack of target pics battery is dead in camera.

RE: range report (sort of cause of no pictures)
 

Thanks for the range report.Not familiar with the Vari-Flame. Any ideas regarding misfires?

RE: Knight Vision
 

That's a nice looking gun. Too bad I'm not allowed to get any more muzzle loaders . That photo of yours could be fatal, because if I buy another muzzle loader I think my wife will kill me:D. "I will not, I repeat I will not buy another muzzle loader."( that was hard to to say).

RE: Knight Vision
 

I know I almost was homeless over this gun. But when I told her what it goes for and what I paid for it, she said I did good. She is a sucker for a good deal, thank God.

I go to the range today and will get a range report tonight.

Failure to fire
 

I think the ftf was due to the use of the primers and adapter not the rifle. I will try the 209 primers this weekend and see what happens.
I may have seated the small rifle primers too deep in the adapter. I am going to check and see with a vernier caliper or a straight edge if they are recessed below the surface of the adapter.
Does anyone know how far a firing pin sticks out when a rifle is shot ?

Had to know
 

Couldn't wait till the weekend to discover the failure to fire so I dragged everything out and put the 209 primers in the rifle. 10 shots and no failure to fire. I did notice that you have to close the action with a snap cause its tight.
I put in the variflame leftovers(4) and got one failure to fire. It makes a clean strike, so I will have to assume its the primers.
Cant wait to go back to the range and hurl some more lead. I will examine the primers and the adapters later.
I am pleased with the first group that i shot with this rifle. If i discount the first shot I have a 1.75" group at 50 yards. I will assume that the wobbly range table had something to do with it and the other part of the equation(nut behind gun with 51 year old eyes:eek:) I can see this shooting 1" groups with practice and load development.

RE: Had to know
 

I could not get the variflame adapters to fire consistently in my Mustang, and my brother-in-law could not get them to fire in his Knight. We ended up tossing them in the trash.

RE: Had to know
 

Are all these Visions coming with the Bh209 friendly plugs, or are you having to purchase them from night ????

RE: Had to know
 

The new plugs are coming with the Vision's from the Sportsman's guide.