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cayugad 01-17-2009 11:31 AM

testing Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner
 
I have a couple rifles treated with the Montana X-treme bore conditioner right now. A White Bison, a CVA Staghorn Magnum, and a Remington Genesis. So I decided it looked half way nice outside compared to the last four days. Boy was I wrong!!!



The thermometer at the yard said eight degrees. It did not look all that windy but I was really wrong. I have no idea what the windchill was out there, but it was kind of brutal.

I had the CVA Staghorn Magnum. I took a dry patch and swabbed the bore before I started this mistake to shoot today. I did pop a primer through the bore. I then loaded 90 grains of Triple Seven 2f powder and a 350 gr Hornady FPB.

The shooting was done at 50 yards. The snowing was coming down and the wind howling. I shot the first shot and was happy with that. I had a patch I had misted with Windex so I swabbed the bore and did not run a dry patch. I then loaded and shot number #2. I swabbed again with the same patch which I admit was very dirty. I then loaded and shot #3.

I leaned the rifle against the shooting bench and walked up to look at the target. And when I was walking back, I saw the rifle slide sideways and disappear in the snow. So I realized I would have to go back to the house to check the rifle over and clean off the snow, and with the weather what it was, decided to call it a day.

Warmer weather is coming. And I can wait. This really was not much of a test for the bore conditioner or the new bullets. But all of them do show some promise. Clean up was easy. I put some Windex on a patch and swabbed the bore clean in three patches. Then some dry patches. And finally gave it another Montana X-treme bore treatment.

Rock Fish 01-17-2009 12:01 PM

RE: testing Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner
 
Is the bore conditional suppose to keep the crud ring that you get with T7 easier to deal with?

cayugad 01-17-2009 12:03 PM

RE: testing Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner
 
At this stage I can not say. It is suppose to make fowling easier to remove and not form. I never had a crud ring today, but then I did not shoot long enough to have much of anything.

Buck Hunter 1 01-17-2009 12:10 PM

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In m y Pro Hunter I had a crud ring begin after the 1 st shot of T7. cayugad, good test i will be interested to see what your findings are. I don't think T7 was that bad a shooting powder, i just found it a real pain to constantly swab between shots. After shoot cleaning was dirty as well but no something that bothered me. I do it no ,matter what I shoot, but the range time it was horrible for m,e.

hunting junkie 01-17-2009 02:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: Buck Hunter 1

In m y Pro Hunter I had a crud ring begin after the 1 st shot of T7. cayugad, good test i will be interested to see what your findings are.

same thing here with mine first one goes down easy,the rest you gotta
jackhammer down

cayugad 01-17-2009 02:27 PM

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These FPB's loaded really easy. I was kind of concerned after reading some of the posts by other members about the tight bore on the CVA when they were trying the FPB's. The conical was easy to load, popped it under the muzzle and then it slid down real good with the range rod. Its a shame it was so cold out there or I would have had a lot more time with these things. And I wanted to see how the bore conditioner would do.

sabotloader 01-17-2009 02:31 PM

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cayugad

I ran over to Colton and did some trap shooting this afternoon - it was 22 degrees and breezy - i thought that was kinda cool...

I hope you keep your weather there though because I weather people here say we will not get a change until the Low leaves the midwest...

cayugad 01-17-2009 03:17 PM

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Well it has warmed up.. it was above zero. Just there was a wind coming off Lake Superior that was a little brisk today. Maybe tomorrow. They said it is supposed to snow still, but I don't mind shooting in the snow.

sabotloader 01-17-2009 03:26 PM

RE: testing Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner
 
cayugad

This morning I got a Renegade out, it is the one that I use for PRB, shooting. I alcoholed the barrel to get everythng I could out, probably should have boiled it out - but anyway I ran a patch of MX and plan on shooting it next @ the farm. First application of MX in it - so it might not be as good as I hope - but you gave the itch to shoot a sidehammer - so it is next...

jaybez101099 01-17-2009 03:31 PM

RE: testing Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner
 
Being new.... why and how do you condition the barrel, i put a little bore butter in when i put them up for the season. a light coat thats all.

sabotloader 01-17-2009 03:39 PM

RE: testing Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner
 
jaybez101099

I use to bea solid BB user and never had any problems with it, then when the blue T17 patches came out I started using them as they provided a much more even appllication of a natural lube. Then I switch to Slip 2000 a synthetic oil to provide that protection and reduce fouling.

After reading the information on M. X-Treme - thought i would give it a shot and at this point it is doing very well, but i really must say the jury is still out.

Do you normally shoot T7? If you do - do you regularly experience the 'crud ring' and/or excessive fouling?

I am thinking you may not but it would be interesting to know.

As for storage if you are storing for an extended time with BB as the protection in a humid climate - I would check your bore on a regular schedule.



bronko22000 01-17-2009 03:51 PM

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I assume the MX will also reduce the fouling from BP and Pyrodex. Being that I rarely use T7. What do you think?

sabotloader 01-17-2009 04:03 PM

RE: testing Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner
 
bronko22000

I can only make the same assumption. I did use it in my shot gun today while shooting trap - hoping to reduce some of the plastic fouling in the choke... and again the jury is still out...

It will never eliminate it...

jaybez101099 01-17-2009 04:10 PM

RE: testing Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner
 
I just bought 777 4 packs on sale at a local shop $20each, in hopes of shooting them in my Ph. But now with a alot of bad talk about it i wondering if i made a mistake. I only shot pyrodex before and maybe only 25 shots a sitting, and between shots wet-dry and never had a problem. So now with my new Genesis im lost on powder? Loose is cheap but pellets makes it easy on a hunter. Crud ring you call it.. im unaware what it looks like. I was brought up on pyrodex with my father and just never switched, he still uses RS even though i bought him a Blk diamond.. spilling a little each time. As hes getting older now i want him to shoot pellets so i was really looking towards the 777 to perform well and he would want to switch.

cayugad 01-17-2009 04:19 PM

RE: testing Montana X-treme Bore Conditioner
 
There is nothing wrong with Triple Seven. And if you swab between shots the crud ring (if it even forms in your rifle) will not be a problem. Use the pellets or loose, what ever you like. And swab between shots and just enjoy the rifle.

sabotloader 01-17-2009 04:40 PM

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jaybez101099

I really prefer T7to any of the Pyro's - it is normally cleaner and not near as corrosive...

Think you will like it...


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