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piketon_hunter#9 12-28-2008 06:49 PM

confused by 777
 
i just got my triumph for xmas and some 777 pellets with it, previously i had always used pyrodex where the pellets seemed longer.. when i went to sight my gun in i thought that it took two 777 pellets to make 50gr. so i ended up loading 300gr. of powder. my shoulder told me i was wrong, but do you think my gun is ok?


i felt so smart after i figured out my mistake lol

cayugad 12-28-2008 06:52 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
I could not say if the gun is all right. That is a lot of powder to put through a rifle. So you're saying you put through six pellets in there? Each pellet is 50 grains. If you have doubts, you should have the rifle checked by a gunsmith.

piketon_hunter#9 12-28-2008 06:56 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
yea i did, i was just reading that someone else was confused by the size diff of the 777, i for some reason thought that every square in the box was 50 grains, not every pellet. completly ignorant of me i knw... i didnt notice anything abnormal when i cleaned it

cayugad 12-28-2008 07:07 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
Did you notice any flaming fire balls going down range or were you too busy looking at the clouds? :D I bet that really kicked!

gleason.chapman 12-28-2008 07:35 PM

RE: confused by 777
 

ORIGINAL: piketon_hunter#9

i just got my triumph for xmas and some 777 pellets with it, previously i had always used pyrodex where the pellets seemed longer.. when i went to sight my gun in i thought that it took two 777 pellets to make 50gr. so i ended up loading 300gr. of powder. my shoulder told me i was wrong, but do you think my gun is ok?


i felt so smart after i figured out my mistake lol
Well you didn't put 2 bullets in it, which some have done (double loaded). You can send the gun back to TC for them to check out, you got lots of time before next huning season. Best to be safe, it is under warranty.
Chap

mljeep 12-28-2008 08:47 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
What Cayugad said, ouch!

alleyyooper 12-29-2008 12:23 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
Yup I agree the school systems in America need a lot of help getting back to the basics.

:)Al

Underclocked 12-29-2008 12:56 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
He WON'T do that again. :D

j2000 12-29-2008 01:55 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
wow,hopefully you had ear plugs in,and you feet fimly planted...

MOEncore 12-29-2008 02:10 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!





gearheart 12-29-2008 02:20 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
I think that's what you'd call a double mistake. First and last time all at once.

Underclocked 12-29-2008 04:26 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
Piketon came on and admitted his error. Might save someone else from doing the same thing. I'll bet most of those pellets didn't burn in the bore... pity this wasn't done at night. :D

piketon_hunter#9 12-29-2008 04:29 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
haha yea i thought my shoulder was gone

HuntAway 12-29-2008 05:54 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
I know I shouldn't but,,,hahahaha that's funny. Sorry 'bout that. Crap that must have hurt. Glad to hear you didn't get hurt too bad.

Now, having read that, I went and checked my boxes of T7 pellets. The box says 50 grain equivalent and 50/50, but no where on the box does it actually say EACH pellet is a 50 grain pellet.

Now I know this isn't an issue for someone who has been ML'ing for years, but I sure can see how a new comer could make this very same mistake. piketon_hunter#9I think Hodgon might be interested in this incident and you should inform of such. (Without the litigation.;))

spaniel 12-29-2008 07:59 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
This reminds me of when my dad first taught me to shoot a 12-gauge. I'd been shooting a 20 and he said a 12 "kicked like hell". Looking back I know my dad is extremely recoil sensitive (he thinks a .22 has recoil) but didn't know it then.

We set up a couple old oil cans, I held the bead of the side-by-side on the first one, flinched, and pulled the trigger. There was a huge BOOM, the oil can exploded, and I was rocked back on one foot. My shoulder hurt like hell (the next day, the Philips head screw in the steel buttplate was clearly visible in the bruise on my shoulder).

My dad laughed, told me to be a man and touch off the other barrel. Being 14 and not willing to be a wuss in front of my dad, I repeated the procedure....nothing. I opened the gun, and BOTH BARRELS HAD FIRED!!! The gun was broken inside and we got it fixed.

After that, nothing has impressed me with recoil since.

Firehawk7309 12-30-2008 06:47 AM

RE: confused by 777
 

ORIGINAL: piketon_hunter#9

yea i did, i was just reading that someone else was confused by the size diff of the 777, i for some reason thought that every square in the box was 50 grains, not every pellet. completly ignorant of me i knw... i didnt notice anything abnormal when i cleaned it
With 45/50, each square only holds one charge, each being 50 grains. With the 50/50, each square holds double that of the .45 box. This past ML season, my 50/50 charges were sticking together like they were one. I guess you already know all of this after the "shot heard 'round the world". If it was me, I'd have the ML checked out my a gunsmith before next season to be on the safe side.

MLKeith 12-30-2008 10:56 AM

RE: confused by 777
 
The good thing is that you probably did not burn all that powder but you did increase the weight of whatever bullet you were using by about three or four pellets weight. Most rifles will not burn more than about 200gr. of powder unless the barrel is really long and the bullet is really tight. When I first shot T7 in my Omega I did not know about the crud ring and shot one load with a pretty small gap between the loose T7 and the bullet. The recoil was severe enough to put a nice cut on my eyebrow and make me wonder just what happened. I stopped shooting at that point and went home and cleaned the rifle. That is when I found the crud ring and have been trying to deal with it ever since. My Omega did not show any adverse signs from the episode but it sure did kick. In your case I might send the rifle back to T/C as that is definately way over maximum recommended loading.

Semisane 12-30-2008 09:09 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
Read the label, read the label, read the label. :D:D Glad you survived. If the breech locks up as tight as it did before I would think the gun is fine.

EDIT: By the way, TC doesn't proof fire their guns - but you took care of that for them. You need to have aproof markstamp made with your initials so you can stampthe barrel. :D

Underclocked 12-30-2008 09:56 PM

RE: confused by 777
 
Have I told you guys that I hate pellets? :)


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