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LaneNebraska 12-24-2008 12:56 PM

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My son almost Double Loaded his 45cal Disc Elite this morning before our hunt!

And here's why.

Tim went to check his rifle to see if it was loaded form his previous hunt last week. He couldn't remember if he had cleared it(Fired it off at the end of his hunt) Instead of dropping the ramrod down, and checking the witness marks, He just blew into the muzzle end, and had good air going out the breech plug nipple, I could hear it as well. Just before he dumped ANOTHER 90g Tube oh BH209 down the barrel, I stopped him and told him to drop the ram rod in, just to make sure.....Was Fully Loaded(Minus The Primer) with powder and 200g Shockwave/with Green sabot

That just blew our minds, cause NO WAY could all that air get thru a fully loaded Muzzy...Right? So I had him prime it and fire that thing off right there in the dark, Went BOOM!

We reloaded, and continued our morning hunt...Wonderfully uneventful

We got home at about 1230 today, and as we said our good-bye's, We hugged each other, and Tim held me a little longer than usual, and thanked me for insisting on double checking the rifle, cause he would have double loaded it for sure if I hadn't been there.

The Lord stepped in, and saved us this time, I know for sure! So PLEASE heed this warning:
Please Be Advised: BH209 Is NOT Air Tight, those little HOLE FILLED grains of powder can let A LOT of air slip past the breech plug nipple! Never Blow into Any Barrel--Always Use the Ram-Rod to check for a Loaded/Unloaded Condition!

Thank You Jesus

cayugad 12-24-2008 01:11 PM

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WOW!!! a very good heads up. I guess when I think of it.. all those little holes would kind of let air through. Glad you insisted and no one was hurt.

revpilot 12-24-2008 01:11 PM

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Glad you caught it. Ask Bigdadjk about double loading BH209.He shot180 grains himself.He almost got knocked off the shooting bench. The Triumph is still in one piece and hes okay, Thank God

Old/New 12-24-2008 01:17 PM

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WOW!

Good to know he and you ended up safe. Good call Dad!

Just this morning I was thinking of why my daughter (who is brand new to muzzy hunting) missed a doeupstate NY on the last Saturday of the ML season the weekend before last. Of all the safety items we went over I believe I failed to tell her to check her load every once in a while during the day to make sure it's seated all the way. The powerbeltbullet whichloadseasily barrel could have come off the charge a bit. Obviously potentially dangerous (who really cares about the miss). When I thought of this my palms started sweating. I have no idea if this affected her shot or not. Doesn't matter.

It always pays to think safety first and just stop and check ourselves.

LaneNebraska 12-24-2008 01:26 PM

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Just want to clarify: I never taught him to blow down ANY barrel[8D] And the Ram-Rod is the ONLY way to ensure(short of pulling the breech plug out) to check for loaded/unloaded condition;)

Semisane 12-24-2008 01:32 PM

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There's nothing like a near miss to get your attention, and get you to thinking "what if".

Thanks for the heads up Lane.

j2000 12-24-2008 01:43 PM

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THANK THE LORD YOU CAUGHT IT IN TIME.....

BigDaddy12t 12-24-2008 01:57 PM

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Thanks for the heads up! Glad to know everyone is safe.

batchief909 12-24-2008 02:17 PM

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Hopefully "common sense" stepped in before the Lord had to.[8D]

PLEASE folks,,,DON'T wrap yer lips around a gun barrel!!!!

Nimrodder 12-24-2008 02:28 PM

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Yep, keepthat pie-hole off the muzzle:eek:. Just dang[8D]

bronko22000 12-24-2008 02:40 PM

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Thanks for the safety alert. SEE - That's why me and Semisane don't use that darn BH209. Geez - pay that much $$ and 1/2 of it is air? Shoooooot.

spaniel 12-24-2008 04:16 PM

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Air filled granules? So in addition to the price it's like a bag of potato chips, pay for 16 oz and get 8? :D

Seriously, good save and glad everyone's ok. I'm assuming you've corrected the muzzle-blowing test procedure already. Just the thought of that gives me the willies!!!

Gotbuck 12-24-2008 08:31 PM

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I'm still puzzled as how the air got by the sabot and bullet and still passed through the nipple. Thank God the gun didn't go off. I always unload and clean and if in doubt drop the ram rod and listen for that familiar plinking sound as it hits the breach. I remember once I bought a muzzy at an online auction and it was delivered to me loaded.[:-] I first checked to see by using the ram rod and when I heard a dull thud I knew I was in trouble. I pulled the breach and out came two pellets and a 300 gr bullet. Something about being in the woods and deer hunting makes us all forget a little safety.

hunting junkie 12-24-2008 10:45 PM

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i double loaded a staghorn one time 200 grains,kicked like a mule and scaired me to death ,very lucky

SWThomas 12-25-2008 07:01 PM

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Sounds more like you or your sons fault than the powders.

heinz57 12-26-2008 12:14 PM

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,,,DON'T wrapyour lips around a gun barrel!!!! never ever ...if he would have done that up here his lips would have frozen onto the cold steel barrel ...SAFETY FIRST ..ps. nothing wrong with the BH 209 powder ..i don't use loose powder but that is another story..


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