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mountaineer magic 12-23-2008 11:38 AM

RE: 10 degrees
 

ORIGINAL: cayugad



Chet... when you're done cutting there, I have 12 logger cord of hard maple that you can start on. I like them 14 inches. :D
Gee That's the most beautiful thing I've seen .Good thing i don't live near you. That looks awful tempting.
I would take you up on that cutting. let's see. one for you and one for me, that sounds fair. 14" for you and about 20" for me and 10" for the kitchen.

Chasam60 12-23-2008 01:07 PM

RE: 10 degrees
 
This is all Al Gores fault. If he had not invented global warming,we would not be having these hot spells.

Charlie

Semisane 12-23-2008 01:31 PM

RE: 10 degrees
 
Don't worry, "The One" will solve all of these problems, bring world peace, and only impose "appropriate" gun control.

gregrn43 12-23-2008 08:44 PM

RE: 10 degrees
 
Dave when we get those 95+ days with the 70 humidity me andmy clan jumps on the 4 wheelers and head for the river beach to cool off and play horseshoes. I have hunted up innortheastOhio with mycousin.He gets the lakeaffect snow fromErie. Boy howdy it sure can snow up there.Whew

cayugad 12-23-2008 08:57 PM

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Well Duluth/Superior weather just said we have gotten over three feet of snow so far this year. It might set a new record. It will snow tomorrow, and then two days after Christmas we are scheduled for storms.



Maybe we can beat the Winter of 95'

gregrn43 12-23-2008 09:15 PM

RE: 10 degrees
 
Holy Cow is that snow at your house? Let me ask a question, How do the deer survive a winter like that? Its not like they can browse for any left over acorns there. My goodness How do they survive?

cayugad 12-23-2008 09:40 PM

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Yes that was the winter of 95' at my house. That's looking out the kitchen window towards my shop and garage.

The deer here sometimes"yard up." Some of them have already started to gather. They gather in the deep woods in places that are somewhat protected by winds with lots of vegetation and brush. Then they stomp the yard flat and hard basically. Then theyhang together and browse on anything they can find. When we get bad winters the deer in the yards get in bad shape. It makes you almost sick when you find a deer yard that's browsed out... plus they eat snow and it dehydrates them and they often times just lay down. Even when you come in the yard since there is no where to run.

Also wolves will find the yards and they go in there and kill lots of the deer that are too weak to run off or escape. They can really leave a mess in there.

In fact in hard winters I will often go back in my woods and cut down four or five white or red cedar trees. They will eat the cedar buds and in the spring there is nothing left on them but large limbs.

When the snow is as deep as that one picture there, all you can do is snowshoe to get around. Unless you want to walk paths. And if you go into the woods, you better not fall over. Its hard to get up when you have to swim in that snow.

The following spring I had friends come and visit and they wondered what had girdled the popular trees five feet up the trunks. I told them it was rabbits that did that. And they looked at me like I was nuts. Then they asked how a rabbit could get that high up. So I showed them the pictures of the snow that year.

Underclocked 12-23-2008 09:48 PM

RE: 10 degrees
 
Dave, my step-son put in one of those outside stoves. Uses circulating water to heat the house and provides hot water. Works great so far. He only loads it twice a day in cold weather (cold HERE) and can use wood up to 36" long. Saves a lot of splitting and sawing. I figure you might need one about twice as big and would have to bury those water lines about 6' under though. :D

gregrn43 12-23-2008 10:03 PM

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Boy howdy Dave I cant imagine it like that. If we get a foot of snow thats a major snow storm for us. It always warms up in a few day and its all gone. Most of our snows are 1 to 4 inches and gone in a couple of days. We have cold enough weather for snow, but usually the front moves in at +32 degrees and the temp starts to drop after the rain has ended. The folks up north are better set up for that weather than us. I sure feel sorry for the game up there and i see where the wolves could really do some serious damage in that kind of weather. I'm sure that it has a direct effect on your buck size or does it? What i mean is that im sure they come out of the winter in poor shape and got to build there bodies up before they can grow big racks. Right or wrong?

cayugad 12-24-2008 10:36 AM

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State Wild life biologists (at the meetings) claim wolves only kill the old and weak animals. Well that's true, but in a deer yard most all the animals by January and February are inweakened condition. So they claim the wolves help the herd. As if I believe them.

Some of the loggers I have talked to claim they see some very large deer taken by wolves in deer yards. Friends and I hiked to a yard many winters ago, and found eight deer killed and partially consumed. I am sure the wolves come back as they need the food, as do the fox, fisher, pine marten, weasels, and ravens. We walked within 50 yards of deer and they would not even stand up out of the snow to move away.

One winter we were on snowmobile and about 20 miles into the national on the groomed trails. And in the trail was a spiked bullelk. And he decided he was not leaving that trail. So he walked down the trail and we followed at a good distance until he found a place he wanted to leave the snowmobile trail. All I kept thinking is.. someone coming the other way will come flying around and smack right into that elk.

Actually we get some monster bucks in this country. They are way back in the Chequamegon Nicole National Forest and they do wander out once in a while and some lucky slob shoots one.



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