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RE: Savage problem

I thought MMP and Knight were the same company?? Tom.

RE: Savage problem

HEAD0001

Sabot wise - I think you are right. I am sure that Del told me at one time in one of our few conversations, he had purchased Knight sabot equipment from them... but that was a year or two back.

The original Orange .458 sabot is/was a Knight product.

RE: Savage problem

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ORIGINAL: fusion
I had to swallow some crow last week with the other guys in camp as all of them shoot Knights, especially after bragging up the Savage.

Let your Savage do your talkin' over the years, you will convert them 1 by 1. Chap

RE: Savage problem

Thought I would give an update after receiving all my sabot samples in the mail last week. Testing was done by removing the breechplug and pushing load through from muzzle all the way out the breech to test resistance.Results as follows:

Knight black sabot with .451 Barnes MZ Expander- Nice tight fit. Concern: Sabot only en-cases 50% of bullet. Not sure if this is an issue or not.

MMP HPH-24 with .458 bullet- Very tight fit

MMP 3pedal EZ with .458 bullet- Nice tight fit but one of the pedals broke off when pushing down the barrel.

Harvester Black Crushed Rib with .458 bullet. Nice tight fit.

Harvester Red crushed rib with .458 bullet- Very tight fit, about the same as HPH-24.

So in conclusion it looks as though all options listed above with the exclusion of the 3-pedal ez sabot will be given a try at the range this coming spring. I think the Black crushed rib would be my first choice as it offered a tight fit but not to tight so you have to fight it to get down the barrel.

RE: Savage problem

Quote:

ORIGINAL: fusion

Thought I would give an update after receiving all my sabot samples in the mail last week. Testing was done by removing the breechplug and pushing load through from muzzle all the way out the breech to test resistance.Results as follows:

Knight black sabot with .451 Barnes MZ Expander- Nice tight fit. Concern: Sabot only en-cases 50% of bullet. Not sure if this is an issue or not.

MMP HPH-24 with .458 bullet- Very tight fit

MMP 3pedal EZ with .458 bullet- Nice tight fit but one of the pedals broke off when pushing down the barrel.

Harvester Black Crushed Rib with .458 bullet. Nice tight fit.

Harvester Red crushed rib with .458 bullet- Very tight fit, about the same as HPH-24.

So in conclusion it looks as though all options listed above with the exclusion of the 3-pedal ez sabot will be given a try at the range this coming spring. I think the Black crushed rib would be my first choice as it offered a tight fit but not to tight so you have to fight it to get down the barrel.

It is fine that it only covers 1/2 the bullet, the big deal is on the bottom, has to seal the charge so it doesn't blow by the bullet.

As for the other sabots exact same experience I had. The Black Crushed rib offered "just right" tightness with .458 bullets.

If you wanna shoot the Expander (they are excellent) with Crushed Rib then buy these TSX Flat Nose:

https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0003545843

They are exactly the same as the Expander, but .458 in diameter, the Expander for MLer bullets are .452.

Here is shooting all those sabots you mentioned above with .458 bulletand 5744in my Savage:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/Barnes%20Origonals%20300g%2044g%20of%20AA%205744%2 0Federal%20209a%20different%20sabots%202008_03_01. pdf

Chap