200gr. Shockwaves UPDATE!
 

OK, need to know what sabot comes with the 200 gr. Shockwaves. For those that use them do you use a different sabot or the suppliedones. After reading some great reports on deer sized game, I am considering using these in my new Triumph for deer. Let me know your thoughts as I have located a good supply of them and want to pick up as many as possible.

Thanks,
Z

P.S. Any stories or recommendations you may have using the 200 grainers lets here them.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

I've shot the 200 grain shockwave/SST (same bullet) some, though out of a .45 cal. inline. It's easily the most accurate bullet out of my rifle - best 3 shot group at 100 yards was just over 1". Average groups are about 1.5". I've shot 1 deer with them- it was a doe that had been hit by a car and I put it out of its misery. 95 grains 777 + 200 grain SST at 5 yards - complete pass-through on the deer's chest and it expired after a few seconds.

I think Spaniel and Lane Nebraska use the 200 grain shockwave a lot- they probably have more stories to share. In the .45 I use the supplied sabot, but if you're shooting out of a .50 I can't tell you what to do. Overall, I think it's a very good bullet for deer-sized game. I'm still using the 200 grain XTP's though, because they're cheaper and I still have a big box of them to shoot up.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

ZRider

I forgot what gun you might be shooting, but I am using the regular MMP Blue sabot in my 50 cals and I am also using the XTP (less expensive and I am not shooting extended ranges). When you place the bullet in the sabot it does st in the bottom of the sabot as yo think it should but as you push the bullet to the powder the bullet wil seat in the sabot. Harvester now makes a 'crush rib' that is somewhat thinner and easier to load in tight bores.

The XTP's shoot like a dream, I have used them on ground squirells - in Idaho we can not use anything less that a 44 cal on big game from a ML so I have no experiance with them shooting deer - but others do.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

I think it is the MMP. If you need one that loads easier you can get the harvester crush rib.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

Sounds like most are using the supplied blue sabots. I guess I will try them on Tuesday and report back.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

Anybody else have some input?

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

The 200 grain SSTs in a blue MMP sabot. Shoot great in my Omega X7 over 70 grains BH209. Right at an inch at 100 yards

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

36* here on Wednesday. Heading to the range that morning to work up a load for the new Triumph using 3F T7 and 200 gr. Shockwaves.
I have my Lanes Tubes all loaded 6 each starting at 95gr. up to 120gr.

Will report back on results.

Z

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

ZRide,

Only reasons not to use the supplied sabots are: 1) tight barrel - have to pound the sabot/bullet down the barrel, or 2) poor accuracy with supplied sabots.
Have fun!

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

I've probably got about as much experience with the 200SW as anybody. I have been shooting them almost exclusively since they came out I think (what was that, 2003 or so?). I average around 5-6 deer per year, so that makes it around what, 35-45 deer taken with it?

While the majority of these deer were in the 80-120 yd range, I have taken deer from 20yds to 338yds with this bullet. I target shoot with it to 400 yds, my groups are still MOA at that range.

The bullet performs well on deer. It expands nicely. The few I have recovered (like all bullets I've tried, majority are pass-thrus) are opened as wide as any XTP or anything else I've recovered. I would not use a non-bonded Shockwave on elk though, I've had a couple double-shoulder hits deform the bullet enough that I find the jacket separated from the lead under the far-side skin and the lead continued through to exit.

The bullet did its job again this year, I hit a nice 9-pt at 200 yds and he dropped in his tracks with a pass-thru.

I shoot it over 110gr FFg 777, 2100fps. At even 115gr the accuracy noticeably suffers in my gun.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves UPDATE
 

Well just got home from the range and my Triumph loves the 200gr. Shockwaves. One problem is they are a bear to load, could not believe how tight they are. Are there any other sabots that you can recommend to help out with this issue. I was using the supplied blue sabots by the way.

Thanks,
Z

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves UPDATE
 

Call Harvester and ask for their new 50/40 crushed rib sabots. Should solve your loading difficulties. direct fromHarvester at 800.922.6287.
They come in a 50 pack at $7.99 + shipping.[/align]

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves UPDATE
 

ZRider

When you get to Harvester ask for Alan Hensley - let him know what is going on. He is really a good guy to deal with.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves UPDATE
 

Thanks guys!

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves UPDATE
 

I thought you were an MMP guy? When did you switch, in what gun(s)?
Chap

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves UPDATE
 

Chap

I am - I didn't - no certain gun - but i have to have some so I can say i know something about them... Actually they use to make all of Noslers sabots untill MMP got the contract so i was using them back then.

And I do shoot them now and then when I am just experimenting...

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves UPDATE
 

Once I get them started they go down fine. Just the first couple of inches are tough.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves UPDATE!
 

Well, wanted to wish all MI hunters good luck this morning. Our MZ season opens in southern lower MI this morning. New Triumph is ready and hope to see a nice size doe or buck to harvest. Good luck everyone and be safe.

Z

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

They do make a Crush Rib blue 50/40 sabot now for those who need or prefer them. J. Ron CO. has them. Lee

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Z rider, Good luck to you as well. I wimped out this morning. Ive got a stand set about 3/4 mile back on state land. I was planning on being there. this morning, but yesterday I wrenched my back. Think I pulled a muscle or something. Got to thinking If I shoot one Im not gunna be able to get it out. So I ended up going out behind the house, figured If I got one I could drive the tractor back. Didnt see anything. But it sure was a beutifull morning.
Good luck

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

Yes it was a very beautiful morning, but man was it cold! Didn't see anything morning or evening, but someone hunting in the same section of state land took one tonight. Did not see it but heard the shot and when we got back to the van there was blood and drag marks in the snow.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

wherabouts you hunting Zrider?

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

Lapeer this weekend then up at our 80 acres in Marion next 2 weekends. Unless we tag out before hand. How about yourself?

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

Marion , Heard lots of good about there. I hunt either Marion springs or Maple river. We canoe in for bowhunting. Gets crazy during gun. I was supposed to be in marion springs this morning, but the news was calling for 30 mph winds. Im going this afternoon & tomarrow morning.

RE: 200gr. Shockwaves
 

Yep, we have hunted Marion Springs as well. My dad has hunted there for close to 40 years now, and me as long as I have been hunting.

I hear you about getting crazy during gun season.

Z