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FG 11-17-2008 04:47 PM

New rifle project-What to do?
 
I got my Maple stock in today, its based off of the CVA Mountain rifle with a .965" barrel channel. I tried my .54cal barrel and would have to shave a few thousandths off each side in order for the .54 to drop down into the stock. However, the .58cal barrel that deercreek sells is the same 1" barrel as my .54 so thats my idea, Build a .58 mountain rifle and shape the stock the way i want it and outfit it with a silver nose cap and browned barrel/trim.

See any problems with me widening the barrel channel? Pros/cons?

thumper50 11-17-2008 05:16 PM

RE: New rifle product-What to do?
 
FG; 17 thousands on a side and bottom ain't very much! Go for it. Your work on coreys rifle is any sign of your quality work, better do it!!

FG 11-17-2008 05:22 PM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
I'll have my hands full as it looks like i will have to make my own patch box. Last owner did some beautiful carving but no production box that i can find. I'll upload some pics after i am finished inletting the lock. Just a little more to go!

FG 11-17-2008 05:54 PM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
Lock done!:D i refuse to do any more work until i have the trim for it. Well maybe widen the barrel channel tonight...
Any clue what patch box?





FG 11-17-2008 06:54 PM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
15 minutes with a sand paper wrapped file did the job smoothly! Now all i need is the .58 barrel for her and the trim.This is turning out to be a really fun project.

I think the wood is sugar maple. I wet the stock and i didnt see any curl so i figure its the sugar maple stock that they used to come with in kit form.


FG 11-17-2008 08:03 PM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
The .58 will be ready to drop right in! I need to do some touch up sanding in the lock area and the tang area to smooth it up but other than that, everything is ready. I will start on the stock shape tomorrow and look on TOTW for stains. I was thinking LMF Honey?


Buck Hunter 1 11-18-2008 06:09 AM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
Fg, been watching your posts on these sites for a while and this fixing and refinishing bug has got hold of me. I would value your opinion on this post , I have it on MM but i don't know if you go there. Thanks in advance!
tore into the DeerStalker last night and took the entire gun down to wood. I have not sealed the inside yet . I am finishing w/ hand rubbed coats of Tung oil finish. I was going to use a Qtip to get a coat of tung oil on the internal wood for a seal of some sorts. It was pretty rough and crusty w/ sawdust,woodchips inside so I am glad I took it all down. I don't think I want to mess with the wood (smoothing or anything)?
The internal metal parts, do I clean them, oil them or do what w/ them? I was thinking of cleaning w/ a toothbrush and butchs bore shine, alcohol wipe, dry and the Rem oil w/ teflon. I am having fun and haven't shot the doggone thing yet.


FG 11-18-2008 09:08 AM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
For the inside of the lock i use birchwood casey molly lube. You have to be careful to remember not to lay the lock down on the carpet the next time you remove it but other than that, its great for the guts of the lock. I never used tung oil before but every stock i redo, gets 2 or 3 coats of tru oil into the barrel channel/lock area/tang area. Thats the main area that i worry about, especially in wet weather.

If you use hot soapy water to clean the internal parts thats fine, along with a tooth brush. Afterwards you can coat them in alchol and then hit them with either the molly lube or your choice of gun oil.

lemoyne 11-18-2008 09:34 AM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
Triaminic acid to bring out the grain ,strips or curly and Tung nut oil is the original way of doing it it is the way my Grand father taught me 60 years ago, it is really interesting to build one from scratch. It has been 35 years since I did that and as I don't have a forge any more I wont be doing it again. When you have the wood completely smooth the apply a heavy coat of tung nut oil and let it set for a day[the old German gunsmith that worked in my shop liked to scrap the stock done with a piece of glass at this point] then every day for a couple of weeks apply some more and rub it out. it makes an outstanding finish an can be renewed at any point in time by applying a bit of tung nut oil and rubbing it out. Lee

FG 11-18-2008 09:44 AM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
Lee, I will try the tung oil this time. Any idea where to order?

Buck Hunter 1 11-18-2008 10:11 AM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
I am using the Formby's tung nut oil finish. I put it on and let it sit for about 18-20 hours, then use 000 steel wool to work off the glazing. I am also interested in that glass scraping idea. What is that about, you said before about removing the whiskers w/ broken glass.
I found this while web hopping:
You need to be careful with the products called Tung Oil. Some are actually "Tung Oil Finish" and are a type of varnish that contain some tung oil, but are not pure tung oil.

If you don't wipe off the excess that's not absorbed by the wood, it will dry on the surface and cause spots that are gummy and 'splotchy'. These will cause problems and a poor finish job. Any oil finish will be the same.

It's important that you have a warm, dry place to let it dry for a couple of days between coats. I'm fortunate to now live in an arid climate, as the oil dries in a day just anywhere. If you live in moister environs, find a good place in your house that's dry and warm. My dad used to put the stocks in the closet where the furnace is, hanging from a reshaped coat hanger (not too close, of course).

If the finish is still tacky, let it dry more, it's not ready for another coat.

After a few coats of oil have dried, I apply some pure beeswax as sold for furniture restoring. Rub in by hand then buff to a nice satin finish using a cotton cloth. A gun stock treated well with an oil finish then beeswax will shed even heavy rain and snow and last a lifetime.

lemoyne 11-18-2008 10:54 AM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
FG I bought a case for a dollar a can at an auction so I have not bought any for a long time but I used to get it at a hardware store, I get a lot of that kind of stuff from here also
http://www.wood-finishes-direct.com/products/wood-finishes/wood-oils/tung-oil.htm
you might try there if the local hardware or Walmart don't stock it.
There are several different schools of thought on ways of using it I like being able to add a bit of tung oil any rub it out some people prefer adding wax, it sort of comes down to what you like.

bronko22000 11-18-2008 01:36 PM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
FG - I think I found your patchbox. Check this out on ebay. Looks like the identical fit. And its German Silver. Item number: 110314007013 copy this item number and do an ebay search.

FG 11-18-2008 03:59 PM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
Started to shape the lock area. I think on the front i want to make it a little more pointy rather than rounded point. Your thoughts on the lock shape?





FG 11-18-2008 05:19 PM

RE: New rifle project-What to do?
 
ITS CURLY MAPLE!!!

I was just doing some work with the sanding block and wiped down the butt and turned away long enough for the water to dry up and noticed long strips going over the hump of the stock!


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