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I shot my CVA kodiak today for the first time. I was using 300 grain hornady sst, with 100 grns of shocky gold loose powder. With the new leupold ultimate slam scope on it. I was not real impresseed with the consistency of accuracy at 50 yds, which is as far as i got before running out of bullets. 3 or four inch groups at best. would like to try blackhorn 209 but have not found it retail around here yet. Any suggetions as to bullet, sabot or powder changes to tighten groups up a bit.it is a fifty cal. 28 inch barrel if that matters. Thanks a lot for any help.
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APP sucks.
Get either some pyrodex,triple 7 or as u said, blackhorn. The sabots could also be an issue but take one thing at a time. |
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i have loose pyro rs i use in my 54 cal but bought the shocky gold last year and wanted to try it.one good thing good about it is the clean up very easy. i do want to try blackhorn but am to cheap to order it and pay hazmat. may be i will shoot up rest of shocky gold rhen switch to pyro for now. any suggestions for different sabots or bullets. was thinking of the gold dots in bulk like the price of those, are they good knockdown wise on deer?
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If your APP is old then I would doubt the power of it even more. I too would get some Pyrdoex Rs and do it all over again. Did the Hornady SST's load hard? Did you swab the barrel between shots (of course that is not necessary they claim with APP)? You might also want to try a lighter bullet like a 250 grain Shockwave. Good luck with your rifle.
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ORIGINAL: cashman I shot my CVA kodiak today for the first time. I was using 300 grain hornady sst, with 100 grns of shocky gold loose powder. With the new leupold ultimate slam scope on it. I was not real impresseed with the consistency of accuracy at 50 yds, which is as far as i got before running out of bullets. 3 or four inch groups at best. would like to try blackhorn 209 but have not found it retail around here yet. Any suggetions as to bullet, sabot or powder changes to tighten groups up a bit.it is a fifty cal. 28 inch barrel if that matters. Thanks a lot for any help. Paul  See the 207 in the JSG column, that means shot to shot that JSG shot about 200 FPS difference, that is a lot compared to other powers, who are near 30 to 50 fps. Chap |
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i did swab the barrel every 2 shots or so. they loaded hard the first inch or to of the barrel and then slid down fairly easy after that. one thing i noticed with my bullet starter it would push the poly tip down int the bullet is this common. if so is there a different bullet starter i should get or what?
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One other thing the shocky gold was unopened brand new container. The pyro RS i have is open from like 2 yers ago does that go bad to?
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ORIGINAL: cashman i did swab the barrel every 2 shots or so. they loaded hard the first inch or to of the barrel and then slid down fairly easy after that. one thing i noticed with my bullet starter it would push the poly tip down int the bullet is this common. if so is there a different bullet starter i should get or what? http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0003505000 Chap |
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ORIGINAL: cashman One other thing the shocky gold was unopened brand new container. The pyro RS i have is open from like 2 yers ago does that go bad to? |
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we were sighting in our guns the other day. and i used the pyro pellets and my mates use 777 pellets. i used TC XPT 240 gr bullets and they used a variety ofpowerbelt 245 gr.
pyro produces less smoke but the 777 is alot easyer to clean and the powerbelt are so much easyer to load and makes it alot less stressful when they slide right down your barrel. [:@]with minimum force. both bullets were super accurate, but im thinking of switching to the powerbelt just for ease of loading. |
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thanks for the advice i do have the tip for my ram rod i am talking about the hand held bullet starter that starts the bullet 6 inches or so. or do u just use your ramrod. i think its easier to start withe the shorter one but if it ruins the bullets what is the point. maybe i will switch to 250 or 300 grain gold dots and not have to worry. Are they accurate at long range say 150 to 200 yds. need to get some blackhorn to. Thanks to all that replied.
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I got to wonder where you came up with the conclusion that app "sucks". We tested all the powders side by side(before blackhorn came out) and it performed just dandy. We cronographed all loads,accuracy tested,glued strain gauges to the sides of barrels,shot at white paper at close range and everything. The only fault we found with jim shocky select was if left exposed to moisture very long it would clump up.
ORIGINAL: FG APP sucks. Get either some pyrodex,triple 7 or as u said, blackhorn. The sabots could also be an issue but take one thing at a time. |
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if you like a powder that absorbs moisture like a sponge and has FPS that varys from 2-300fps, use it.
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Yeah it does absorb moisture but I still can't figure out where it varys 300 fps-remember we used cronographs,perhaps loading technique was not uniform or seating pressure wasn't uniform-it IS sensitive to that.
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With my new Optima Elite shooting 90grJSG with 200gr Shockwaves and spit patching between shots I got a 1 1/4" group at 100 yds. It really didn't like 100gr. Just try different powder charges. Try dropping to 90gr.
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APP ffgis so chunky, I only buy the fffg which wasn't on the test list.
I don't know how it's able toabsorb moisture when it's sealed in a jugthat'sonly openedfor the amount of time ittakesto fill a flask. I load with it fora2weekDecember deerseason using an 11 capand it's never failed when it's fired offafterward at the range. And itpacks plenty more wallop than I'll everneed. |
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Yeah-that's what I personally use is app FFF.
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ORIGINAL: arcticap I don't know how it's able toabsorb moisture when it's sealed in a jugthat'sonly openedfor the amount of time ittakesto fill a flask. |
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