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RE: barnes mz hard to load??

indy
thnx for the info
am currently shooting the mz with the hph24 an had some 290tmz that were a little tough but doable so i thouhgt id ask thnx
by the way my hunting partner is in fishers and wants to know if there is a range down there he can shoot his triumph at? and where can he get some bh209?over the counter

RE: barnes mz hard to load??

Rick

Really I have No clue , I am in Southern Indiana along the Ohio River , But if he wants to come to my house he is more than welcome to shoot here mite be a little far LOL

Ron

RE: barnes mz hard to load??

ok thankx
he s by indyanapolis so
he be better off up my me

RE: barnes mz hard to load??

i have 20 of the yellows left..

RE: barnes mz hard to load??

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ORIGINAL: Indiana SmokePole

Brad

A reg MMP OR Harvester Sabot will not work with the spitfire and the Barns TMZ asthey area Boattail bullet and a Boattail bullet requires a special Sabot to maintain the stabilaty as it travels down the barrle . well you can use them but you will not get the right type of Accuracy as you would with the right type of sabot. Check with Knight and see if you can buy some of the E-Z load sabots that are blue and made for the Spitfire or TMZ.

Ron

Brad is shooting an MZ, which is not a boat tail, so tte Harvester or MMP will work. If you wanna shoot the Barnes MZ, go to the Rifle bullet made by barnes called the TSX 45/70 bullet, part number 45843, with a Crushed Rib sabot or shoot an MZ with a Crushed Rib with BlackHorn. The TSX 45/70 bullet is .458 diameter and it shoots well in my Savage. My Omegashot theMZ and supplied sabotand Blackhorn 209, 100g. With 777 you MUST swab bettween EACH shot even in the field to be able to load and for best accuracy. To swab most folks use windex and rubbing alchold mixture of 50/50. I just use a little bit of bore butter on a patch, the bore butter does not dry out as quickly and is ok for a 2nd shot. Honestly I really never ever reload, it is usually bang flop with Noslers 300g---and I am expecing the same thing with Barnes.

Chap

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Some folks shootthe Barnes Boatails (TMZ and Spitfire) using a #18 washer in the bottom between the bullet and sabot, this keeps the sides of the sabot from letting the gas escape and they get great accuracy. Barnes also has just come out with a Flatbased TMZ called the TEZ I believe, you can get it off the Barnes site. Chap

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ORIGINAL: brad_vanderband1

had some hard experience with the barnes today. shooting them out of a omega. clean barrel or fouled i couldnt hardly get them down the barrel. My shockwaves loaded so much easier that i just gave up on the barnes. The barnes are the 285 grain with the yellow jacket. any one else have this experience??

If he is shooting a 285gr , he is shooting a spitfire MZ witch is a Boattail bullet . The Expander MZ or the redhots do not come in a 285gr bullet.

( i have 20 of the yellows left.. )

Ron

RE: barnes mz hard to load??

sorry for the confusion, they are the 285gr MZ spitfires with the yellow sabots.