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saxman1 08-18-2008 11:47 PM

Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
I have heard mention of these on the forum but would like some feedback from those of you that have shot them.
Give me all the good stuff
Gun
Powder
Primer
Grains - bullett and powder

We have a hurricane coming in so I wont get to shoot them for a while.My wife hates it when I shoot in the house.I fly to Chicago this weekend for a gig so I will have to wait. Anybody in that area?
I'll be staying in S.Elgin and playing at the Barrington Yacht Club

corey012778 08-18-2008 11:55 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cla 350 grain
 
they shoot great out of knight with just 75grs of triple 7 2f. planning on taking them out to 100yrd tomorrow. if it is not windy.

over all. little more then I can get copper clad AT powerbelt. may stick with sabots. or go on and do a little switch. never know what I will decide till I got to load up. ;)

forgot, cci #11 mags
here is a small range report on them.
did not feel like digging up the one on here. [8D]
http://ganderspowerbeltforu.powerguild.net/off-topic-free-for-all-f13/fpb-s-ok-they-are-that-good-t103.htm

Wingbone 08-19-2008 05:30 AM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
I've had very good groups (with open sights, 2"+at 100 yd, 4" at 150 yd.)out of my Knight as well. I've been using 100 gr. of T-7 2f. My buddy tried the same load out of his Omega and had similar groups. We haven't been getting flyers with this bullet.

gleason.chapman 08-19-2008 05:50 AM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 

ORIGINAL: saxman1

I have heard mention of these on the forum but would like some feedback from those of you that have shot them.
Give me all the good stuff
Gun
Powder
Primer
Grains - bullett and powder

We have a hurricane coming in so I wont get to shoot them for a while.My wife hates it when I shoot in the house.I fly to Chicago this weekend for a gig so I will have to wait. Anybody in that area?
I'll be staying in S.Elgin and playing at the Barrington Yacht Club
Do you intend to shoot these in your Omega? Chap

frontier gander 08-19-2008 08:10 AM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
They shot horrible in my Omega, Loading them was a dirty bore was about as easy as removing cement from a 400 yard old cannon that was soaked in salt water for about 20 years.

Prone to shedding the pedals that form when bullet impacts. Not bad but still limits the size of the hole. I prefer a Big hole all the way through.

Should be interesting to see how they open up, if at all, on game on lung shots.

If you shoot them, swab between shots or else its pretty bad getting them down. I can load sabots easier on a fouled bore than i can with these.

saxman1 08-19-2008 12:35 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 

ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman


ORIGINAL: saxman1

I have heard mention of these on the forum but would like some feedback from those of you that have shot them.
Give me all the good stuff
Gun
Powder
Primer
Grains - bullett and powder

We have a hurricane coming in so I wont get to shoot them for a while.My wife hates it when I shoot in the house.I fly to Chicago this weekend for a gig so I will have to wait. Anybody in that area?
I'll be staying in S.Elgin and playing at the Barrington Yacht Club
Do you intend to shoot these in your Omega? Chap
I will be shooting them out of my Encore 50 cal with a Omega scope

cayugad 08-19-2008 01:18 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
I saw the local Wal Mart had them in stock. But I refuse to buy powerbelts at over a buck each, and the same goes for them...

I have too much other things to shoot. In that Encore I would be shooting 250 grain shockwaves, but to each their own... good luck with the gig and I hope the storm is kind to you.

HUNT4ME 08-19-2008 02:07 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
I just got some the other day.Went to the range today with them.Took my 3x9scopedKRB7,hearing that it liked FPB'S.Have the gun zeroed at 75yds.Where I hunt here in Va.There ain't none of them 100-150 yd.deer to see.Anyway had worked up a load previously w/250 gr.Honady sst low drags.Been very pleased.They will hold at 1"most of the time if I'm doing things right.Shot 5 rounds,all were at top of a 1' dot in a tight little cluster,life was good.Then I decided to put some of the FPBS down the chute.Used same charge for grins and giggles.90gr.T2F,w209,and the FPB.Seated the bullet kinda firm like and proceded to put three in the same damn hole.Iwas grinning.Mind you the hole was a bit bigger than one bullet but aone holer none the less.About 2"low and 1"left.Now I don't carry a camera around with me cause I don't usually shoot a group I think worthy of a picture.But this one,..It was something to see.Two guys shooting asked me if I was shooting a 30-06,idiots.Don't know what to hunt with now.BTW,who ever said earlier to swab is exactly spot on.

saxman1 08-19-2008 03:14 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 

ORIGINAL: frontier gander

They shot horrible in my Omega, Loading them was a dirty bore was about as easy as removing cement from a 400 yard old cannon that was soaked in salt water for about 20 years.

Prone to shedding the pedals that form when bullet impacts. Not bad but still limits the size of the hole. I prefer a Big hole all the way through.

Should be interesting to see how they open up, if at all, on game on lung shots.

If you shoot them, swab between shots or else its pretty bad getting them down. I can load sabots easier on a fouled bore than i can with these.
FG,when you say swab do you mean just a spit patch or a cleaning fluid patch?
I was reading on a site for Encore's that they had the best luck with just both sides of a spit patch.

cayugad 08-19-2008 04:48 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
There are two schools of thought in swabbing solutions. Some say a spit patch will remove the main fowling but leave the bore coated with a film, which is a good thing. The others think by cleaning with windex or other swabbing solution you clean the bore better and hence, get more uniform shots...

Try both cleaning solution and spit and see what works best for you. Then let us know. I use a cleaning solution.

cayugad 08-19-2008 04:53 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
HUNT4ME that sounds like some excellent shooting. Also a good powerful load.

txhunter58 08-19-2008 05:35 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 

ORIGINAL: frontier gander

They shot horrible in my Omega, Loading them was a dirty bore was about as easy as removing cement from a 400 yard old cannon that was soaked in salt water for about 20 years.

Prone to shedding the pedals that form when bullet impacts. Not bad but still limits the size of the hole. I prefer a Big hole all the way through.

Should be interesting to see how they open up, if at all, on game on lung shots.

If you shoot them, swab between shots or else its pretty bad getting them down. I can load sabots easier on a fouled bore than i can with these.
You shot, what 7 shots? and you are ready to condem them? I know of your love for powerbelts, that that is a little early to condem a new bullet in my book.

If you really don't want to swab between shots, use blackhorn 209. I suspect that they would shoot accurately with pyrodex, if you swabbed between shots. Out of my Omega, they shot very well with 777 (with swabbing) and with 209 (without swabbing). They also shot very well out of my KRB with 777 (with swabbing)

You make allowances for powerbelts indeosycries, so you have to make some allowances for FPB's. They ARE larger than bore, so it makes perfect sense that if you use a somewhat dirty powder, they will be too tight to load well without swabbing. AND IT ALSO MAKES SENSE THAT THAT WOULD DETRIMENTALLY AFFECT ACCURACY. The only reason you can load multiple powerbelts without swabbing is that the bullet itself is smaller than bore, and the plastic gives a little.

I have never been able to shoot 15 times without swabbing (even with pyrodex and powerbelts) and have the last five shots be just as accurate as the first 5, but with my Omega, BH 209 and FPB's that happened for me with the last 5 shots making a 2 & 1/2 inch group at 100 yards with a peep sight.

Truth be told, neither of us know much about the FPB's and won't until many critters go down with them. I am taking a wait and see attitude, but for the time being, I personally consider them as good as, if not superior to powerbelts for what I want to do with conicals. Only time with tell if I am right or not. WIth 90 grains of BH 209 behind them, they are going to be getting a try by me this fall.

frontier gander 08-19-2008 08:03 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
I shot more than enough to tell me that they are not the conical for me!

When a sabot loads easier than a conical, i'll use that sabot over the fpb.

I want to be able to reload at least 3 shots on a dirty bore. I dont run around the woods in my french maid suit with all my cleaning supplies around my skirt.

Its still fun and interesting to try out new things as they come. But this one is just not for me.

A hornady great plains, bull shop load a lot easier on a dirty bore and i can get accuracy out of them without swabbing.

Fast reload time to me is important. Especially this year when i will be hunting is very cold mountain weather. I dont need to strain and grunt trying to get a new load down the bore when its snowing.

txhunter58 08-19-2008 08:17 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
To each his own. I was worried about loading FPB's in my Omega, because they are known for having very tight bores, but at least in my Omega, they load fairly easy. Just the luck of the draw with my specific barrel. I suspect you got a tighter one. And to each his own with powder, 'cause with blackhorn 209 I can shoot as many times as I want without swabbing. To me, that is worth a lot, so I won't be running around the woods with my french maid suit either, not even after 3 or 4 shots.

I can tell you this too: The best group I ever got out of my Omega with powerbelts was 4 inches at 100 yards and I shot that once.

Doesn't mean one is better, just that each barrel/ each gun is different.

" I shot more than enough to tell me that they are not the conical for me!"

There have certainly been a lot of people who said this after using powerbelts. Granted, most of them are ill advised and pushing them too fast, but we don't know what the FPB's can do yet. Power to your "powerbelt hunting experiment" and power to my "FPB hunting experiment".

frontier gander 08-19-2008 08:23 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
.502" bore on my omega

My field test is simply for fun and a good way to get forum members to get together and have a good time.

I tested the FPB for those who are going to use them. I am not the only person who wants an easy to load conical.

TNHagies 08-19-2008 08:33 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
Despite the fact I'm not going to pay $1+ a bullet I think the FPB is a great thing for the industry. Hopefully other companies will follow suit and give us some more options for conicals. I just wish they'd keep the cost down. I'm lookin' forward to seeing some field reports on them this fall and winter.

Gonna be hard to top a good ol' Bullshop though ;):D

txhunter58 08-19-2008 08:54 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
"I tested the FPB for those who are going to use them. I am not the only person who wants an easy to load conical."

My point is that you have not really "tested" them. From my point of view, you shot a few and pronounced them inadequate.

I and many others have done some more extensive testing and like what we see so far. I have shot them with 2 different powders in two different guns at multiple grains of powder. Probably over 100 shots so far. Not through with testing, but they show promise to me.

That and the fact that in my particular Omega, they are BY FAR the best shooting conical I have found AND load fairly easily. And I have tried for over 4 years with all kinds of conical and powders to find one that would shoot well.

frontier gander 08-19-2008 09:00 PM

RE: Got some FPB's 50 cal 350 grain
 
inadequate for my personal use.

my omega shoots the 350maxiballs just fine at 1 3/4" @ 100 yards. Just hate the messy lube.


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