blown scope, lead sled to blame?
08-18-2008, 09:41 PM
#11
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
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RE: blown scope, lead sled to blame?
Well I never used a lead sled.
I have some problems with Burris products. I do not mean to anger anyone, and my experience with Burris is limited, butyears ago, my friends on their centerfires went with Burris scopes. I went with a Tasco World Class. We all shot 7mm mags and both their scopes went bad after a year or two. Now granted we shot a lot back in those days, and some were hot loads. My friends both went to Leupold after that. My 7mm mag STILL has that same Tasco on it, and it still shoots great.
Lets hope that Burris has a great customer service...
I have some problems with Burris products. I do not mean to anger anyone, and my experience with Burris is limited, butyears ago, my friends on their centerfires went with Burris scopes. I went with a Tasco World Class. We all shot 7mm mags and both their scopes went bad after a year or two. Now granted we shot a lot back in those days, and some were hot loads. My friends both went to Leupold after that. My 7mm mag STILL has that same Tasco on it, and it still shoots great.
Lets hope that Burris has a great customer service...
08-18-2008, 09:42 PM
#12
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SOUTHERN Illinois USA
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RE: blown scope, lead sled to blame?
ORIGINAL: Underclocked
recoil - that energy has to go somewhere. Your shoulder is a nice, pliant cushion that will absorb the energy, a brick wall is not so accommodating.Just run a simple vector analysis of the distribution of force.
But I always wonder (when reading of this type event)what kind of rings/mounts were involved and if they were secure.
recoil - that energy has to go somewhere. Your shoulder is a nice, pliant cushion that will absorb the energy, a brick wall is not so accommodating.Just run a simple vector analysis of the distribution of force.
But I always wonder (when reading of this type event)what kind of rings/mounts were involved and if they were secure.
08-18-2008, 09:47 PM
#13
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SOUTHERN Illinois USA
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RE: blown scope, lead sled to blame?
i've contacted my sales rep for burris and i'll be sending it back. they have a forever warrenty and have sent a few of my other scopes to them before for minor things. they will take care of it and do so without charge. i haven't run into any problems with there service before.
08-19-2008, 05:23 AM
#15
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
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RE: blown scope, lead sled to blame?
Jascoesens - look at it this way. Lets say you took your scope and layed it in your open hand. Then you smacked it with a rubber mallet. It would fly off your hand and onto the ground - and probably not get damaged. Now set it on a concrete floor and give it a whack with the mallet. You are definately going to jar the internals. Maybe enough to cause damage. Think about recoil as the invisible mallet.
The lead sled is a good idea and I wish I thought of it while pattering my 3 1/2" turkey gun or sighting in a 460 Weatherby for a guy.
The lead sled is a good idea and I wish I thought of it while pattering my 3 1/2" turkey gun or sighting in a 460 Weatherby for a guy.
08-19-2008, 06:00 AM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
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RE: blown scope, lead sled to blame?
ORIGINAL: outdoorsmen
shooting the triumph today for the second time with my burris signature 3-9x40 electro dot. i have maybe a total of 25 shots through the combo. well today after maybe 6 shots i noticed that my crosshairs were moving. this could explain why i wasn't getting any groups. i tapped the rearend of the scope and watched my crosshairs move, they ended up looking like and X instead of +. not happy at all.
i wonder if my lead sled is to blame. it was questioned awhile back that the sleds were hard on scopes. of course the lead sled people say that there is no way that is possible.
all i know is i just wasted alot of time, gas, blackhorn and barnes bullets for nothing.
shooting the triumph today for the second time with my burris signature 3-9x40 electro dot. i have maybe a total of 25 shots through the combo. well today after maybe 6 shots i noticed that my crosshairs were moving. this could explain why i wasn't getting any groups. i tapped the rearend of the scope and watched my crosshairs move, they ended up looking like and X instead of +. not happy at all.
i wonder if my lead sled is to blame. it was questioned awhile back that the sleds were hard on scopes. of course the lead sled people say that there is no way that is possible.
all i know is i just wasted alot of time, gas, blackhorn and barnes bullets for nothing.
08-19-2008, 06:16 AM
#17
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 12,746
RE: blown scope, lead sled to blame?
You are exactly right Chap. And I see no problem with using the lead sled. But using it properly - like you are, with only about 20 lb of weight.
That TV commercial is misleading using 100 lb of weight and shooting a 416 RM.
Using too much weight and using a firearm with some 'kick' is going to result in equipment failure sooner or later.
That TV commercial is misleading using 100 lb of weight and shooting a 416 RM.
Using too much weight and using a firearm with some 'kick' is going to result in equipment failure sooner or later.
08-19-2008, 09:22 AM
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
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RE: blown scope, lead sled to blame?
I did not like the "Sled" the first time I saw one. I do not doubt the fact that the "Sled" is harder on your equipment. But I did not like it for a more basic reason. There is no doubt in my mind that if you impede the natural recoil of the rifle then you would no doubt impact the POI. This impact of POI would be unacceptable to me. Tom.