Remington 700 ML problems.
 

My dad just bought a Rem. 700 ML from a friend, the pamplet that came with the gun says to use #11 caps, but they nipple is to large for one, and to small for a 209. The gun has never been fired, was won in a raffle, any suggestions?

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

yea its set up for musket caps i bet. i bought a remmy ml when they first come out and did the same thing. converted it to accept musket caps instead. that was before the big 209 craz.

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

By musket cap you mean #11 caps, are they two different things, I thought #11 cap's were musket caps.

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

Two different caps...

Civilian percussion guns used a different cap than a military musket...

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

Ok thanks, does anyone know were I can get musket caps, I cant find them on bass pro or Cabelas, it s kind of odd that the pamplet says to use #11 though, do musketcapsfire hotter than a #11 or a 209, thanks.

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

Do the musket capsgo by the name of a magnum #11 cap?

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

Musket Caps are musket caps and #11 are #11 ... just like a #11 is not a 209 primer. Some people call them Top Hats, but they are Musket Caps. CCI makes them and I bought mine at a Wal Mart.

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

No, #11 caps and #11 magnum caps are the same physical size. The magnum is "hotter".

The musket nipple is physically larger than an #11 nipple. In the picture below, the #11 is on the far right and the musket is second from the right.



Here's a picture of musket caps.




Click here for a picture of #11 caps.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/common/product/popupzoom.jsp?company=cabelas&image=s7_210243_ imageset_01&inStockColor=1111&displayName= CCI No. 11 Percussion Caps&tProdID=0006579210243a

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

All you have to do is switch out the Musket cap nipple with a #11 Nipple but make sure you get the right Threds size . CALL remmington and ask thwem witch nipple to buy. most likely it is a 1/4X28 nipple like a TC Hot Shot nipple . Then you need to buy the CCI mag #1 Caps they are HOTTER. than the reg #11 caps

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

#11 nipple for the 700ML http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=10956&st=767-991-100&s=27411

Might be a good idea to pick up a couple of spare nipples - they tend to erode and wear out.Brownell's hasspare breech plugs, 209 and musket nipples as well. Numrich also has plugs http://e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=707100&chrSuperSKU =&MC=

Gamaliel Shooting Supply and Kittery Trading Post have musket caps in stock

http://www.gamaliel.com/cart/home.php?cat=953

http://www.kitterytradingpost.com/product.php/pid/103/sid/666/prodid/1087

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

Unless your dad just wants to shoot #11 or musket caps, he might want to consider buying the 209 conversion from Cabela's. I've never heard anything bad about them. I have read and heard reports of people having iginition problems w/the 700's until they converted. That seemed to cure it.
Just an idea to think about.

Here's the link to the conversion:

Cabela’s 209 Conversion

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

Go back and ask the guy if he gave you everything. My 700ML had nipples for 3 different primers. Musket caps, #11s, and the 209 shotgun primers. I would suggest going with the 209s if at all possible. They will almost totally eliminate the chance of a mis-fire.

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

Boy that is cheap for a conversion, the Knight "regular disc" to the new red Disc is like $100 at Cabelas. I would go with that just from the hotter iginition and less than $50 (1/2 tank of gas).
Chap

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

The Remington 700 will work just fine with either #11 primers or Musket primers as long as you follow the manuals cleaning instructions for the bolt.
I bought this bolt take down tool at Gander Mountian for $10.00, makes life so much simpler.




Sabotloader recommends a stronger spring in the bolt also. I think he has posted brownells for the #24 spring.

:)Al

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

I agree alleyyooper, the bolt is something I think people overlook. The guyI got mine from kept the gun spotless except for the bolt. I don't know if he didn't realize it got that dirty or just didn't know how to take it down.. Nonetheless, it was quite dirty. That take down tool is a gift from heaven. The whole, vice and a coin thing is a joke after using one of the tools.

A stronger spring couldn't hurt either. I changed out the factory one in mine to the Cabela's one. I don't know how stout it is though.

RE: Remington 700 ML problems.
 

The factory springs that come with the Rem 700 ML are #24 and are a weak 24 at that.

http://www.gunsprings.com/1ndex.html

This is a much stronger spring than comes from the factory. I have changed several of thse out and it makes all the difference in the world when shooting caps. BUT, becareful of dry firing - the strength of this spring will get to the nipple sooner or later.

I found this Remington 700 ML 209 replacement nipple at http://muzzleloadingbullets.com/remi...9_nipples.html It also talks about being able to use the Variflame primer adapter with it. Hope this helps.

grafik0117

That appears to be the Canadian nipple built for the 700ml... I just ordered a couple to check, but if it is the Canadian nipple it probably will not work with the Remington hammer - you will need the Canadian hammer also...

There is a difference... You can see a picture of the kit here... what you can not see is the face of the hammer is not cupped like the Remington...

http://armurierlavaltrie.com/remkit.html

I bought a Remington 700ML new in 1997 black & stainless, love the gun and it shoots great, however what I wanted was the one 700ML that the "Remington" custom shop offered with a beautiful wood thumbhole stock. I've looked for a "used" one being Remington does not offer this model anymore. Does anyone know of one that may be for sale? Or doess any one make wood thumbhole stocks for the 700ML ?