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cayugad 07-03-2008 01:43 PM

Blasting a Bison
 
Today I decided to shoot something I hadn't shot in a while. I had removed the scope from my White Bison in .504 so I had no notes as to how well it shot with the open sights that came with it.

The White Bison is considered the bottom of the line in the White Rifles. If there is a bottom of the line. The Bison was a meat and potatoes hunting rifle. Wood stock made of Myrtle wood, and nothing fancy. Even the sights are very basic.

So I set up at 35 yards and figured I should be able to hit the cardboard off a pizza from the other night.. I put some duct tape to give me a point of aim and then loaded.

I forgot to even wipe the oil out of the barrel. I loaded 70 grains of Pyrodex P, a felt .510 wad, and then a 560 grain Bull Shop conical. Using a RWS #11 cap I touched it off...



I was pretty pleased with the group there.. so I then loaded up with the same powder charge, the same wad but changed over to a .503 460 grain Bull Shop conical.



At no time did I swab the barrel. I just loaded and shot as fast as I could. I never kept count of the number of shots I fired, but it seemed to lay them in there pretty good.

I then moved a piece of tape to the edge of the cardboard and this time shot some of the 460 grain conicals but had ran out of wads...



It seems to shoot well even without wads. This short rifle will make a good stalking and tree stand rifle. I moved the scope off it and might just leave it like that...

spaniel 07-03-2008 02:03 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
I always preferred a light, short, simple open-sighted gun for the woods. Took my first couple dozen deer with a ML using a $109 Traditions Deerhunter.

coryj 07-03-2008 02:07 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
Nice shooting Cayugad. Those White's never cease to amaze me with how well they shoot conicals. Their price range is keeping me out of the game for the time being, I keep finding deals on sidelocks, but I wouldn't mind having a White someday.

Keep up the good shooting!

oldsmellhound 07-03-2008 02:24 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
Nice shooting! I'm guessing that the recoil from the 560 grainers is interesting to say the least:)

Semisane 07-03-2008 02:38 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
Oh sure, it's a nice carrying rifle. And those 560s shoot real well. But, is thatenough bullet for white tails? ;)

cayugad 07-03-2008 02:39 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
Whites are well made, and the recoil was not all that bad. Noticeable mind you, but nothing anyone would complain about. I'd sure hate to be on the receiving end of that 560 grain bullet. It might not be going very fast, but I am sure the down range energy would be something else.

TNHagies 07-03-2008 02:42 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
Sheesh, don't worry about accuracycayugad, you could probably hit a deer in the hoof w/those 560 BS' and still kill it:D

cayugad 07-03-2008 03:02 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
:D:D:D they are a good size chunk of lead. I figured for Semisane's sake I better get something large to shoot as if I hunted with a .451 caliber (as I was kind of planning)and a 460 grain conical he would fret and worry all season about me being run over by the wild Wisconsin Whitetail because I was under gunned.

cascadedad 07-03-2008 03:11 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
Hey Dave, I can't see your pictures, but I'm sure the shooting is great as usual! I think you and Sabotloader both got bionic eyes installed a few years ago!!!!

You mention your Bison has a myrtle wood stock. Is it painted or finished? (Again, I can't see your pictures. Sorry if it is there.) Either way, you may have apretty nice looking stock if you strip it and refinish. I've seen some beautiful myrtle wood. If it is super plain and light, I wonder if it is actually birch.

cayugad 07-03-2008 03:52 PM

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I took the Nikon scope off and mounted that on a White .451. That stock looks composite or synthetic but it is wood. Who ever finished it did an excellent job as if you did not take the barrel out of the stock, you would never know it is Myrtle wood. It is painted but I can not figure out what kind of paint it is. It's not a Latex or oil base. It's almost like a plastic paint if there is such a thing. And the rifle has a good firm grip. I honestly thought it was composite when I bought it. Take the barrel out and you can see the wood down where the locking lug goes...

cascadedad 07-03-2008 04:24 PM

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I think my Lightning has a similar paint job. Unfortunately the stock is birch and is SOFT. Have to be real careful not to ding the stock up. If I had a myrtle wood stock, at some point I would try to get the paint off and refinish.

Semisane 07-03-2008 04:26 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 

:D:D:D they are a good size chunk of lead. I figured for Semisane's sake I better get something large to shoot as if I hunted with a .451 caliber (as I was kind of planning)and a 460 grain conical he would fret and worry all season about me being run over by the wild Wisconsin Whitetail because I was under gunned.
I guess the 460 will do Cayugad. At least you got a pass through on that pizza cardboard. :D:D

cayugad 07-03-2008 04:35 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
cascadedad.. is that lightening a good shooter? I saw a White on sale on Gun Broker and it was not a G series. I thought it was a Lightening. I even considered trying to purchase it, but changed my mind. I have enough Whites..

HuntAway 07-03-2008 06:08 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
They make a big hole. I like that. Good shooting Dave.

TNHagies 07-03-2008 11:06 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 

ORIGINAL: cayugad

cascadedad.. is that lightening a good shooter? I saw a White on sale on Gun Broker and it was not a G series. I thought it was a Lightening. I even considered trying to purchase it, but changed my mind. I have enough Whites..
I check the sites for Whites from time to time but mostly see the Whitetails. Do you ever see the Thunderbolts for sale? That's what I'd prefer to have.

cayugad 07-03-2008 11:24 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 

ORIGINAL: TNHagies


ORIGINAL: cayugad

cascadedad.. is that lightening a good shooter? I saw a White on sale on Gun Broker and it was not a G series. I thought it was a Lightening. I even considered trying to purchase it, but changed my mind. I have enough Whites..
I check the sites for Whites from time to time but mostly see the Whitetails. Do you ever see the Thunderbolts for sale? That's what I'd prefer to have.
I do not own a Thunderbolt, but from reading the posts of many of the White Rifle owners that DO know everything and anything about White Rifles.. of all the rifles they LIKE THE LEAST, it would have to be the Thunderbolt. Not for accuracy reasons, but because of cleaning reasons... Like I said I have no experience with them. The best White from what I have read about, is the Super 91-II and if legal, in a .451 caliber. The favorite of mine has to be the M97 Ultra Mag and then I really like my M97 .451.Although this Bison I got used and is in a little ruff shape in the bore, but seems to still be a good shooter.

TNHagies 07-03-2008 11:35 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 

ORIGINAL: cayugad


ORIGINAL: TNHagies


ORIGINAL: cayugad

cascadedad.. is that lightening a good shooter? I saw a White on sale on Gun Broker and it was not a G series. I thought it was a Lightening. I even considered trying to purchase it, but changed my mind. I have enough Whites..
I check the sites for Whites from time to time but mostly see the Whitetails. Do you ever see the Thunderbolts for sale? That's what I'd prefer to have.
I do not own a Thunderbolt, but from reading the posts of many of the White Rifle owners that DO know everything and anything about White Rifles.. of all the rifles they LIKE THE LEAST, it would have to be the Thunderbolt. Not for accuracy reasons, but because of cleaning reasons... Like I said I have no experience with them. The best White from what I have read about, is the Super 91-II and if legal, in a .451 caliber. The favorite of mine has to be the M97 Ultra Mag and then I really like my M97 .451.Although this Bison I got used and is in a little ruff shape in the bore, but seems to still be a good shooter.
That would make sense as most bolt actions are harder to clean. I'm just not sure if I like the cocking mecanism on left side for right handed guns... seems akward to me. Perhaps I could get used to it. From what I can tell, you're lucky to find one nowadays so don't guess I can be too picky.

corey012778 07-03-2008 11:38 PM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
560gr bullet, for some reason my bad shoulder started hurting.

great shooting cayugad, as always.




cayugad 07-04-2008 10:17 AM

RE: Blasting a Bison
 
That left handed cocking lever is funny. I never thought I would get used to it. Now when I shoot my Black Diamond XR or my Staghorn... I find myself reaching to the left side of the receiver and feeling around for the cocking lever.


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