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MoNoFletch 06-18-2008 08:43 PM

New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
I am buying a new ML and I would like some input! Here is what I like so far...tell me the good and the bad!

1) Knight KRB 7 nickle/synthetic

2) CVA Optima Pro Nickle/camo/thumbhole

3) Thompson Omega Z5 blue/synthetic

frontier gander 06-18-2008 08:53 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
midsouthshooters.com has the new CVA Accura for $288. blue/black. Its based off the TC Triump design but with a better barrel that will do sabots and conicals. Plus a solid stock.

www.budgunshop.com has the CVA Elite ' like the encore that can use a centerfire barrel" For under $300 depending on what you want.

MoNoFletch 06-18-2008 09:16 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
CVA's website has Optima Pro all camo thumbhole for $277 shipped ($249+ $28 shipping) Also has the Kodiac Pro Laminated Thumbhole for $277+$28 shipping

frontier gander 06-18-2008 09:26 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
laminated thole kodiak pro! At that price u cant go wrong.

mcawful 06-19-2008 04:42 AM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
I'd go with the Knight, but only because since i bought my KRB, I've become a Knight fan. The accuracy, easy cleaning and reputation for reliability sold me.

MoNoFletch 06-19-2008 05:21 AM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
I can get the Knight KRB 7 (nickle/synthetic)for $250 new never shot from a local mom and pop is thata good deal?.

lemoyne 06-19-2008 06:54 AM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
The new Triumph is sort of a super Omega and the best for sabot shooting the White is the best for lead conicals the knight will do every thing except the new non crosive high velocity powder [Black Horn 209] the CVA was good for my business repairing them was a steady source of income till I retired, hopefully the new ones are better. Lee

MoNoFletch 06-19-2008 07:42 AM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
Hmmmmmmm

cayugad 06-19-2008 09:24 AM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
Depending on the kind of hunting situations you encounter, all of them are going to do the job. The Knight and the T/C would be my first choice. Although if shooting the new Blackhorn 209 was not important, then it would be the Knight. I do not own any of the rifles you mention. But I do own rifles from all three companies. The Knight would be my choice. Then get some sabots and some Triple Se7en 2f powder and some good primers. Perhaps some Shockwaves or Parker Ballistic Extremes, or some Barnes Expanders. Those I will guess should shoot very well in the Knight.

I just like the rolling block design the best, and the Omega Z5 has the lower quality stock and that does not impress me. Now if it were one of the regular Omega models, that might be a different story. Also check some of the classified adds, there are good rifles for sale on them.

MLKeith 06-19-2008 10:26 AM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 

ORIGINAL: MoNoFletch

I can get the Knight KRB 7 (nickle/synthetic)for $250 new never shot from a local mom and pop is thata good deal?.
I think you will find the KRB7 is stainless not nickle but the price is definately good. I paid just over $300 for the same rifle shipped to my door. Except for the inability to shoot BH209 until they redesign the breechplug (which will happen) to allow use of the new powder. It is the best of the ones mentioned in my opinion. I do believe the new CVA stuff with the new barrel supplier is a big improvement for that company. My T/C Omega is a great gun but very picky on what can be crammed down the barrel and it really cruds up with Tripple Seven. Maybe BH209 will bring it back out of storage for me as it has been too big a problem to try to shoot with what was available.

SteveBNy 06-19-2008 11:19 AM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
ML -Any thoughts on when the redesign might happen?
Just got UC's KRB - wanted a dedicated sabot shooter to go with my Whites.
One range session wit 2f T7, shockwaves (200, 250, and 300)and 300gr XTP Mag's- its a shooter!
Would like to try the BH209 when possible.

Thanks
Steve


frontier gander 06-19-2008 11:40 AM

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MO i think it would be foolish not to buy with the kodiak pro. Laminated stock, stainless barrel, a rifle where you can actually use the sights "krb is designed for a scope" The kodiak is just as easy to clean as any break open.

rdpettit 06-19-2008 12:26 PM

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Have you checked out an Encore?

I didn't care for the Omega. I also have a Knight Revolution II. It's a great rifle... However if you have the cash for an Encore...

Underclocked 06-19-2008 12:51 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
Does that Mom & Pop shop have any KP1 Knights? Price? Great price on that KRB.

Steve, I guess that scope base worked out for you?

SteveBNy 06-19-2008 12:57 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
Yep - had bad rings at 1st.
Put anither set on and everything I shot was 3" or less at 100yds (as good as my eyes and trigger finger allows).:D

Steve

corey012778 06-19-2008 01:00 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
UC, a local gunshop in my area has ONE in stock, $480.

MoNoFletch 06-19-2008 02:31 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
The KBR 7 seems to be the better deal...I will head to Bass Pro to see what they have!!

sjsfire 06-20-2008 01:20 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
I really like the KRB I pickedup around March. Got it from Sportsman's Warehouse in Layfette (SP?) Indiana. Black stock/blued $219+tax. Topped it off with a Nikon Pro Staff2x7x32. I haven't got to shoot it but once, I just retired a couple of months ago and have this damn pain the my rear.....(not my wife.) A nerve problem. They have me going to therapy, it's workin but is a long process to feel better. Haven't been able to shoot anything but 300gr XTP's in the KRB. They shot fine but my pet load is a Barnes Expander MZ.





DMShook 06-20-2008 04:25 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
I know this may spark a lot of controversy, but I think the only problem is that they are all inline and not traditional.

sjsfire 06-20-2008 07:08 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 

ORIGINAL: DMShook

I know this may spark a lot of controversy, but I think the only problem is that they are all inline and not traditional.

I doubt it I'm new to MZ and own two, both inlines. From alot of the posts I've read in this forum there are a number of guys that own both inlines and traditional. Some day when I find a deal I'd like to try out a traditional.


SteveBNy 06-20-2008 07:57 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 

ORIGINAL: DMShook

I know this may spark a lot of controversy, but I think the only problem is that they are all inline and not traditional.
So?

Steve

frontier gander 06-20-2008 07:59 PM

RE: New muzzleloader.....HELP!!
 
Traditional is a lot more fun and enjoyable to me but i still get an itch to test out one of those inlines that come out every now and then.

Underclocked 06-20-2008 08:26 PM

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inlines have become traditional. :D


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