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coryj 06-14-2008 08:47 PM

new to me investarm .45
 
Picked up thegun belowon gunbroker today, can't wait for it to get here. Sounds like it may have been n.o.s. or a rifle that saw very little use. Currently I have 4 .50 cals and have been looking for a little variety, either a .54 or a .45. The latter won out, but I'd still like to find a .54 with a slow twist. This picture is off of gunbroker, I'll post pics as soon as I get it as well as a range report. Thiswill make a nice gun for the trips when my wife accompanies me to the range, but I'll get some use out of it too ;)


The addiction continues.

Semisane 06-14-2008 09:04 PM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
Glad to see some new iron coming your way Cory. We need a few "new gun" shooting reports. I'm still waiting for the .45 barrel for my Renegade. It should arrive next week andwillbe my first .45 also.Looks like we'll be shooting them at about the same time. Got any load plans yet? I've ordered some 285 grain Great Plains bullets for my break in range session.

frontier gander 06-14-2008 09:13 PM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
great find man! I dont see many in .45cal.

coryj 06-14-2008 09:17 PM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
I'm going to pick up some maxi-hunters, prg's, and whatever else I can find at the local shop. Don't think they carry much for the .45, may have to take a ride to RMC, I'll be in Pennsylvania in two weeks on the motorcycle and it's a nice ride to mingoville. If I don't make it to RMC, I'll order some conicals off the internet.

I downloaded the manual for the investarm and it says 55 grains max for prb's and 50 grains max for conicals, fffg black powder. Never had a .45 or paid much attention to people loads on here, seems on the low end, but that's what they recommend as the max.

I try to live vicariously through others on the board and love range reports and hearing about new guns, but there's nothing like doing it for yourself. I thought about another gm barrel, but thought I'd go with a whole new platform. Good luck with your .45 Semi.

Cory.

frontier gander 06-14-2008 09:25 PM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
50 grains max with a conical? That aint right. Or atleast i hope its not!

coryj 06-14-2008 09:38 PM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
Here's the link to the manual:

http://www.investarm.it/media/pdf/manuale_avancarica_uk.pdf

with ffg it says 60-75 grains depending upon conical weight. I have to take a look at my t/c manual and see what there numbers are for comparison.



Semisane 06-14-2008 09:44 PM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 

I downloaded the manual for the investarm and it says 55 grains max for prb's and 50 grains max for conicals, fffg black powder.
That does seem to be a little on the conservative side. The TC manualshows 90 grains FFg for balls and 80 grains FFg for Maxi's in the .45 caliber Cherokee and Seneca models.

frontier gander 06-14-2008 09:59 PM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
tc 45 hawken with maxi shows 100g ffg blackpowder as a max load.

I think you'd be safe using atleast 90 and 100 grains with the maxi. I can tell you this. 70g pyrodex p with a 240g maxiballs VS mule deer @ 30 yards SUCKS.

coryj 06-15-2008 05:29 AM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
FG,
Did tha load suck for the mule deer (dead) or for you (lost or wounded deer)? Not quite sure what you meant by your post, but I think maybeit sucked for you.

Anyone have any experience with the investarm brand of guns? I believe they make Lyman's guns and cabela's hawken and they are both quality brands.

rafsob 06-15-2008 07:59 AM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
I have the exact model as that and in the cal. you wanted:



It is a Sportized Cabala's Hawkens Carbine in .54 cal. The only thing is it has a fast twist rate of 1 in 24". I like it though and shoot Barnes sabots in it. I harvested a very large doethis past season. It is a very accurate gun and one I like very much. The short barrel makes it an easy gun to hump in the woods.

A friend of mine gaveme an Investarms barrel in .50 cal. The only problem is it has somenasty corrosion within a few inches of themuzzle. Because it has a chomed lining, it makes it very hard to try and lap the damage. So far it shoots a PRB within about 2 to 2.5" at 50 yards. Beenthinking of getting a new barrel withthat caliber and twist rate for PRBs.

I guess I should check withGM? Most everyone seems to use them for replacement barrels.

cayugad 06-15-2008 09:30 AM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
As for the Investarms manual.. Lyman is made by the same company. Investarms, & Lyman rifles are the same as those sold under the Cabela's name actually. If you look in the Lyman manual (which also comes with an Investarms Manual when you purchase a Lyman) they give a much more generous powder charge for their .50 calibers and .54 calibers, but I checked my Lyman Manual and there is no information on a Lyman .45 caliber.

frontier gander 06-15-2008 09:55 AM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 

ORIGINAL: coryj

FG,
Did tha load suck for the mule deer (dead) or for you (lost or wounded deer)? Not quite sure what you meant by your post, but I think maybeit sucked for you.
Not one deer lost, but two! One with a front on chest shot and the other with a lung shot. I FINALLY got one at 30 yards, i spine shot him and then hit him directly right behind the shoulder. He got up and ran a half mile, went down, got up again and ran a 1/4 mile before falling into a cattle guard. Slit his throat and threw him up into the bed of the truck. Couldnt find any bullets. No exits "not a big deal to me" but the bullet failed horribly and i never use them on anything but paper and very rarely use them for that.

70g pyrodex P isnt exactly a wimpy load, especially for only a 30 yard shot. The other 2 shots were in the 80 yard range. Huge monsters :(



saxman1 06-15-2008 10:43 AM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
I have the investarms in 50 cal and I bought a 45 cal GM barrel for it.
Nice gun even though it is right handed and I am left.
Always looking for the lefties.

frontier gander 06-15-2008 10:50 AM

RE: new to me investarm .45
 
Saxman wish i would have known that! There was a beautiful .54cal left hand cva hawken at the rendezvous! He wanted $200


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