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corey012778 05-28-2008 12:44 AM

transport laws
 
I got someone who will fix my new englander for free when I go out of town in june. only thing, I will have to take it with me. I am going threw NC, SC, GA, and FL.

do I need/should do anything to keep out of legal problems.

bergall 05-28-2008 02:07 AM

RE: transport laws
 

ORIGINAL: corey012778

I got someone who will fix my new englander for free when I go out of town in june. only thing, I will have to take it with me. I am going threw NC, SC, GA, and FL.

do I need/should do anything to keep out of legal problems.
I'm presuming you're talking about driving thru the above named states, with your firearm cased and
unloaded with action open in the trunk of your car and separate from any ammo.

ok...according to NRA-ILA:

a: North Carolina: no issues if you're not under 21 or convicted of a crime of violence and not otherwise
prohibited from firearms posession.
http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/NCSL.pdf

b: South Carolina:Pretty much the same as N.Carolina
http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/SCSL.pdf

c: Georgia: same as the other two
http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/GASL.pdf

d:Florida: same-same.
http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/FLSL.pdf

So, if you're not a felon, drug addict, terrorist or convicted of a crime of domestic violence,
it looks like your trip should be uneventful.

cayugad 05-28-2008 10:27 AM

RE: transport laws
 
I can not say for sure what the State laws are in the placed you wish to pass though, but a muzzleloader, unloaded, and in a case, out of reach of all passengers of a moving vehicle is normally not a violation of law. Of course these new domestic violence laws, terrorist laws, etc.. might have an impact on it, but I would "suspect" if you are a law abiding citizen with a clean record, there should be no problem.

corey012778 05-28-2008 10:32 AM

RE: transport laws
 
my plan is to put it in the trunk of the car FIRST then loading everything else. I am not bring any powder, bullets or caps. I figured if we, for some reason, got out shooting, I'll pick an handful of stuff down there.

Underclocked 05-28-2008 11:44 AM

RE: transport laws
 
Corey, you're fine with that plan. I don't think there would be any issue with your having an unloaded muzzleloader anywhere in your vehicle in those states.

But you might get arrested in SC for not having a loaded handgun in your glovebox. ;)

corey012778 05-28-2008 11:58 AM

RE: transport laws
 

But you might get arrested in SC for not having a loaded handgun in your glovebox.
no handguns going on this trip. stays at home with an EMPTY all the time.

may rethink that since I read that again. ;)



Semisane 05-28-2008 02:59 PM

RE: transport laws
 
Years ago, my brother-in-law and two of his cousins (all in their late teens at the time) were on a summer road trip from New Orleans to visit Grandma's ranch in California. They were stopped on a highway in Texas by three troopers in two state police cruisers who boxed them in and, with guns drawn, made them get out of the car. One of the troopers shouted "where are the guns". My brother in law replies "they're in the trunk" (they had three or four rifles in cases packed behind a load of clothes and an ice chest). Well, after a little more shouting, some confusion, and stained underpants, it turned out that they pretty well matched the description of three guys who had robbed a convenience store about a half hour earlier. After it was all sorted out, the troopers sent them on the way with handshakes and apologies.

bergall 05-28-2008 03:29 PM

RE: transport laws
 

ORIGINAL: Semisane

Years ago, my brother-in-law and two of his cousins (all in their late teens at the time) were on a summer road trip from New Orleans to visit Grandma's ranch in California. They were stopped on a highway in Texas by three troopers in two state police cruisers who boxed them in and, with guns drawn, made them get out of the car. One of the troopers shouted "where are the guns". My brother in law replies "they're in the trunk" (they had three or four rifles in cases packed behind a load of clothes and an ice chest). Well, after a little more shouting, some confusion, and stained underpants, it turned out that they pretty well matched the description of three guys who had robbed a convenience store about a half hour earlier. After it was all sorted out, the troopers sent them on the way with handshakes and apologies.
Yikes ! Shades of My Cousin Vinny !

But seriously, down where you are, and where you're going, there should be no problem.
For me, when I drive from NJ to Maine to hunt, I go thru NYC and Massachussetts. NYC requires a permit for posession, period. Massachusssetts requires you to apply and pay for a 'transport permit' for the exact make, model and serial number of firearms you're bringing up to the hunt. When I drive south to
S.Carolina (The low-country), I pass thru Maryland, another anti-gun, skunk-hole which requires a transport permit. NYC, Ma. and Md have not heard of FOPA of 1986 and have taken it upon themselves to make things either hard or dangerous for gun owners passing thru the state. That's why I provided links to the states you said you'd be passing thru....

corey012778 05-28-2008 05:10 PM

RE: transport laws
 
from what I cought from reading and I am going to transport it, I should be fine.

IF I do take it. space is the issue.

rafsob 05-29-2008 06:18 AM

RE: transport laws
 

ORIGINAL: bergall

For me, when I drive from NJ to Maine to hunt, I go thru NYC and Massachussetts. NYC requires a permit for posession, period. Massachusssetts requires you to apply and pay for a 'transport permit' for the exact make, model and serial number of firearms you're bringing up to the hunt. When I drive south to
S.Carolina (The low-country), I pass thru Maryland, another anti-gun, skunk-hole which requires a transport permit. NYC, Ma. and Md have not heard of FOPA of 1986 and have taken it upon themselves to make things either hard or dangerous for gun owners passing thru the state. That's why I provided links to the states you said you'd be passing thru....
I am havig a problem trying to understand why one would need a transport permit to go through a state. That would be a violation of federal law. I do know that if you are transporting a firearm through NYC, and stay in the city longer then a few days, then you can be charged for not having the proper permits.

You can transport firearms through any of the fifty states without any permits. This comes under the interstate commerce act. Oh yeah, it must be properly cased and unloaded!

And just for GP's, most states and the federal gov. don't consider muzzle stuffers firearms. That is why we can ship ML without an FFL. However, some states have changed their laws to include them as firearms. I think NY state just did this recently.



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