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I accidentally bought another rifle today. It was in an auction. The price they were asking was too low, so I put a bid in, and low and behold I got a email telling me it was my lucky day. It's a .50 caliber T/C Pennsylvania Hunter. It has a 32" barrel and single trigger. Just one of them things that seem to happen to me. I talked to the seller already,and it will be on the little brown truck Monday. Good thing I do not have to answer to anyone. :D:D Kind of a nice looking rifle I think. And I actually do not have that model.

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Now that's a nice looking gun!!! Congrats!!!!

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geezz, cayugad.

it looks good. thre congrets

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Looks nice!
Looks like an octagon/round barrel? If so, GM barrels should drop right in. ;)

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Looks a lot like the Renegade, except for the trigger guard. Is it octagon to round??

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Yes it starts out octagon and then moves to a round barrel. I think this is the same thing the New Englander became...

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Dave
I think you have a case of horse shoes 4 leaf clovers and rabbits feet you sit on when you bid on the guns. I have never seen a man get do many good deals. Well congrats and enjoy

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Pretty soon youre gonna have ta have someone help ya shoot all them guns.:):)

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He will need a caddy to help tote them to the range. Maybe Tiger could recommend one

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Nice rifle! Must be nice to not have to justify every "unnecessary" gun purchase....;)

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cayugad

Gee whiz! where are you gonna put this one... you are buying and I am thinking about putting at least oneif not two up for sale next week when we get home... I am not keeping up very well...

That is a nice looking ml

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You don"t have to justify if they don't know about it.

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$180, not bad. That was the gun you said someone was serious about. Nice looking rifle. I want one of those cap locks. Chap

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Well I was not going to buy it but it had been sitting there at around $125.00 so I started bidding. And I made one final bid and did not care if I got beat. Well I didn't. That's all right. It will fill out my collection nice....

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Dave;Thanks for the address. also looks like you have another sweetie!! Roundball twist? Be waiting for a range report!!

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That is a great looking rifle Cayugad! I'm not sure that I have heard of that one from TC but I bet that it will be a tack driver! Kind of favors the New Englander in a way.

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The Pennsylvania Hunter was around for a long time and was normally in flintlock. Then they started putting them out in cap lock. I think this model turned into the New Englander but I can not swear by that. It will be an interesting addition...

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That is a really nice looking gun.

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I always thought tha Pa Hunter rifles were strictly flintlock because in Pa. only flintlocks are allowed in the late season?(learn somethng new every day)Nice rifle!

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I hateyou and will leave it atthat!!! ;)

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I love that part!:D
Great looking rifle!

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Did TC us a one size fits all stock and let the barrel determine what the gun was? That is the spittin image of my white mountain with a longer barrel.

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:D Some folks are just accident prone, I guess. Nice looking rifle.

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Not exactly.. one stock does not fit all. Some of their stocks are cut to fit a 1" on the flats, like the Renegade and the .54 caliber Hawkins. Some are 15/16th on the flats like the .50 and under Hawkins, White Mountain, Pennsylvania, Cherokee, Seneca, also some barrels start out octagon and turn round, some are all octagon. So while all the stocks are not alike, they are similar in most cases. I do believe the locks are interchangeable, but don't quote me on that. When it gets here, if the 15/16th barrel from my Hawkins fits it, I would know more, and if it does (since it is a flintlock) I might order another barrel from GMB for it as well. I also hope the 12 gauge barrel off my New Englander fits it, so I have some wood on my shotgun...

But I am kind of guessing you are right in that, they are the same stock as the White Mountain Carbine.

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Dave I sure hope it fits I want to use my nw GM 21 inch in the big B That is the same as yours except flint right.

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Yes, as far as I know your rifle coming is a Pensylvania Hunter flintlock.. so it should be the exact same thing as mine except a different ignition... When mine shows up, I will check it with the carbine barrel for you.

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Brown truck should bring mine tommorow according to delivery schedule

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http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/lonewolf5347/thompson%20center/P1010007.jpg
The above hardware was from a vintage t/c hawkens
The stock in the picture was from a PA hunter percussion

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Do you know if it has any rifling at all?

Deep in the recesses of my memory is the notion that some, if not all, PA Hunters were smoothbores, because PA did not allow rifled bores in their muzzleloading season. I think that has now changed.

That may or may not be the case.

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It is a 1-66 twist... from what I was told over the phone.

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Amen, that is what we want to know, can you place a Hawken FL barrel and a Hawken FL lock on a Percussion Stock, and you have shown you can. Great picture. Thanks so much. Chap

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being from pa. i have not seen to many of those guns shooting,a lot of people keep them as they are worth a lot of money.

yes, they are 1-66 twist.

15 years ago i saw a few shooting at our club.

those guns were tack drivers with rd ball.

now, they are collector guns and not many bring them to club ,only to show them off.

did he say how old it was?

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I just called TC Arms and asked the lady if a TC White Mountain Carbine can be converted to FL, she initially said no, but then looked at the pictures and went back and asked one of the gunsmiths and said yes. A TC FL Lock is $125 and a GM barrel is $95 + shipping. Good deal for 'builders', especially if they are tack drivers. Chap Gleason

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Can the TC Renegade be converted to flint?

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chapman
The flip on the PA stock was original a percussion
Semisane
renegade percussion can also be fliped all is needed is a barrel and lock
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/lonewolf5347/P1040007.jpg
the above renegade is a kit gun from the middle 70's and shoots 95 grains of 3F and a 530 RB excellent
The WM stock is the same stock as the PA hunter

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Yes, I know that is true, because I have some PDFs of it on this forum about 2 years ago. I just called
TC today to ask if they sell a FL lock for the White Mountain Carbine, and they do the Hawken Lock for $125. $95 for a percussion. Chap

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Cayugad,

Nice find there. I have the same rifle in flint. They have .010 deep rifleing and are 1/66 twist. Some of the later models were 1:38 or 1:48 twist. If it's 1:66 twist you have yourself a tack driver.

Try out my favorite load if you wish. Might save some tinkering time. I use 85 grains of Goex 3f; .495 Hornady ball; .018 Criso lubed patch and a .54 Wonder wad. Try it out; these guns love Criso as a patch lube! The Wonder wad helps a bunch too.

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thanks for the heads up Mossie.. it should be here tomorrow. If the little brown truck gets here early enough I might get a shot or two out of it.