Newbie need help, please
01-29-2008, 05:05 PM
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 947
Newbie need help, please
I am looking into purchasing a flintlock for the first time. I am a lefty and know that I am limited to the rifles I can buy. I am looking at the Lyman line of guns. The3 available are the:
Great Plains Rifle .50 cal
32" barrel
1 in 60" twist
Great Plains Hunter .50 cal
? barrel length
1 in 32" twist
Deerstalker .50 cal
24" barrel
1 in 48" twist
Why the difference in the length of the barrels? What kind of twist do I need toshoot sabots? The Deerstalker is about 100 dollars cheaper than the other 2, but I'd rather spend the extra if it is going to perform better.
Is there any other southpaw manufacturers out there?
Any info and opinions is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Great Plains Rifle .50 cal
32" barrel
1 in 60" twist
Great Plains Hunter .50 cal
? barrel length
1 in 32" twist
Deerstalker .50 cal
24" barrel
1 in 48" twist
Why the difference in the length of the barrels? What kind of twist do I need toshoot sabots? The Deerstalker is about 100 dollars cheaper than the other 2, but I'd rather spend the extra if it is going to perform better.
Is there any other southpaw manufacturers out there?
Any info and opinions is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
01-29-2008, 05:15 PM
#2
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wellsboro, PA
Posts: 36
RE: Newbie need help, please
Well I am a lefty as well and I have way more muzzleloaders than one needs. If you are patient you can find them on gunbroker.com etc.
In left handed I have:
TC Renegade 54 percussion (found asa kit)
TC New Englander 12 gauge percussion (gunbroker.com)
Lyman GPR 50 percussion
Lyman GPR 50 flint
Dixie Gun Works Hawkin 50 flint (really a lyman trade)
Traditions Hawkin 50 percussion
TVM fowler 62 flint
TVM Iron Pennsylvania 50 flint
So I guess what I am getting at, they are out there.
In left handed I have:
TC Renegade 54 percussion (found asa kit)
TC New Englander 12 gauge percussion (gunbroker.com)
Lyman GPR 50 percussion
Lyman GPR 50 flint
Dixie Gun Works Hawkin 50 flint (really a lyman trade)
Traditions Hawkin 50 percussion
TVM fowler 62 flint
TVM Iron Pennsylvania 50 flint
So I guess what I am getting at, they are out there.
01-29-2008, 05:18 PM
#3
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,009
RE: Newbie need help, please
Deer902
The 1/60 twist is for roundballs
the 1/48 twist will shoot conicals good
The 1/32 twist is going to be your best bet for sabots
But JMO if I had a gun like this I would want to shoot conicals But that is Me !!
The 1/60 twist is for roundballs
the 1/48 twist will shoot conicals good
The 1/32 twist is going to be your best bet for sabots
But JMO if I had a gun like this I would want to shoot conicals But that is Me !!
01-29-2008, 05:23 PM
#4
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wellsboro, PA
Posts: 36
RE: Newbie need help, please
Guess I should say something about the twists, barrels etc. The lyman GPR is a great rifle. The 1:60 twist is a really good round ball shooter as well as Hornady PA conicals. The hunter with the 1:32 will shoot sabots just fine.
01-29-2008, 06:08 PM
#5
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 21,193
RE: Newbie need help, please
The Lyman Great Plains Hunter with the 1-32 twist will be the best option if you want to shoot sabots. Another option is find a rifle that has a drop in barrel ability and you can then get a Green Mountain Barrel with a 1-28 twist that will shoot sabots with a good powerful charge.
From what I have read in posts, the GPH seems to be a real good shooter... My friend has one, but he shoots Lyman Maxi Ball out of his with some amazing accuracy.
From what I have read in posts, the GPH seems to be a real good shooter... My friend has one, but he shoots Lyman Maxi Ball out of his with some amazing accuracy.
01-29-2008, 06:10 PM
#6
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 1,838
RE: Newbie need help, please
The GPR is longer and heavier than the Deerstalker, more traditional if you will.
I have a Lyman Trade Rifle in .50 perc with a 1:48 twist and it loves conicals. Adores the LEE REAL bullets.
Does pretty good with round balls, but if I was looking for a roundball shooter, I'd look in the 1:60 and above range.
1:48 is a good compromise between a roundball and a sabot shooter. Mine shoots conicals just fine.
Check this.....
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2562026&mpage=1&key=&#256244 0
I have a Lyman Trade Rifle in .50 perc with a 1:48 twist and it loves conicals. Adores the LEE REAL bullets.
Does pretty good with round balls, but if I was looking for a roundball shooter, I'd look in the 1:60 and above range.
1:48 is a good compromise between a roundball and a sabot shooter. Mine shoots conicals just fine.
Check this.....
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2562026&mpage=1&key=&#256244 0
01-29-2008, 06:17 PM
#7
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location:
Posts: 3,246
RE: Newbie need help, please
ORIGINAL: Deer902
I am looking into purchasing a flintlock for the first time. I am a lefty and know that I am limited to the rifles I can buy. I am looking at the Lyman line of guns. The3 available are the:
Great Plains Rifle .50 cal
32" barrel
1 in 60" twist
Great Plains Hunter .50 cal
? barrel length
1 in 32" twist
Deerstalker .50 cal
24" barrel
1 in 48" twist
Why the difference in the length of the barrels? What kind of twist do I need toshoot sabots? The Deerstalker is about 100 dollars cheaper than the other 2, but I'd rather spend the extra if it is going to perform better.
Is there any other southpaw manufacturers out there?
Any info and opinions is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
I am looking into purchasing a flintlock for the first time. I am a lefty and know that I am limited to the rifles I can buy. I am looking at the Lyman line of guns. The3 available are the:
Great Plains Rifle .50 cal
32" barrel
1 in 60" twist
Great Plains Hunter .50 cal
? barrel length
1 in 32" twist
Deerstalker .50 cal
24" barrel
1 in 48" twist
Why the difference in the length of the barrels? What kind of twist do I need toshoot sabots? The Deerstalker is about 100 dollars cheaper than the other 2, but I'd rather spend the extra if it is going to perform better.
Is there any other southpaw manufacturers out there?
Any info and opinions is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chap
01-29-2008, 06:24 PM
#9
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location:
Posts: 5,180
RE: Newbie need help, please
i hardly doubt double triggers makes the rifle any more accurate. My deer creek is set up for single trigger right now, also has an interchangable double trigger. Double trigger IMO has quite a bit of creep and grit to them. As long as the single trigger has an adjustable tumbler for "trigger" adjustment, there wont be any accuracy difference.
My deer creek is set up right now with a single trigger and adjustable tumbler while my TC New englander had a preset trigger. A stiff 4lb pull on the TC VS a trigger thats under 2lb pull on the deer creek.
My deer creek is set up right now with a single trigger and adjustable tumbler while my TC New englander had a preset trigger. A stiff 4lb pull on the TC VS a trigger thats under 2lb pull on the deer creek.