Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

Which have you fellers had the best luck with?
Still trying to get better accuracy out of my Trade Rifle with PRBs. I bought some of the T/C wads at BassPro yesterday, but 50 of em for $10?
Gotta be a better (and cheaper) way.
Haven't gone the cornmeal route yet, maybe that's the ticket.
How much cornmeal over the powder?
Do I have to add eggs and milk?:D

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

Along withthe eggs and milk, just add some butter and salt. Oh wait, this is for shooting not eating.:D

I would try both since you already have the wads but the cornmeal may conform to the shape of the PRB better and still give you the buffer your looking for. Best way to know is try them both.

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

Thanks, David.
About how much do you put down there?
10-20 grains?

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

mcawful,"How much corn meal?" It depends on several things, like the caliber, the condition of the barrel, if its rifled or not. To give a starting point, a 50 caliber rifled barrel in good shape with a tight fitting patch and ball 20 gr by volume is plenty. if its rough or has pitts or the patch and ball is not a tight fit add 10. Lee

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

mcawful

I buy my over the powdwer wads through Track of the wolf I get 1000 for $7.50 with shipping it is about $10.00 I shoot the .510-a

www.trackofthewolf.com

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

IndianaSmokePole(or anyone else who uses the wads), do you see better accuracy using a wad with the No Excuse conicals rather than without? If so how much difference in groups?

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

I took the advice of Cayugad and several others and started using the felt wads with my 50 cals and my 54 cal. using conicals and PRBs. I would have to say that my accuracy increased by 50% or better. I suspect there are several reasons for the increased accuracy. Which may include more consistant pressure and reduced fouling. Who knows why but I won't shoot my MLs without them now.
I picked up a bunch of 50 and 54 cal wads at a gun show a few months ago for $3 a bag of 100. I got all the guy had.

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

O most Deff. with out I had a good shot group but could not get them to tighten up better than 2.5 - 2.75"
with the wads I shoot a 1" to 1.25 shot group at 100yds . I shoot the BullShop Conicals in a .504 460gr NEX & 443gr UC Shorts with 85gr 2fg loose 777 & win T7 primers out of my KRB7. I think I was getting to much Blowby to keep a consistant Preshure behind the Bullets. Made a Big Differance.

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

Wads under the big conicals may or may not help, it depends on the gun and load. I found no difference when shooting the No Excuse 460 in 2 of my guns. When shooting the Bull Shop's I needed a shot card to get a tighter group, I haven't tried a wad yet with that bullet. Give it a try both ways and see.

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

Other than ordering online, the only option I'm left with is cornmeal or cutting my own.
Finding the felt material in the proper thickness at a reasonable price may be a task.
Lee, it's a Trade Rifle in .50, darn near new. I've probably put 100 Rbs and60 or so conicals through it since I got it.
The bore is spotless. Or darn near.

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

mcawful, the 20gr by vol. should do it. You might also try felt wad I have had very good luck with them in good barrels. I use the felt stripping they use for weather seal from the hardware store and cut my own with a 1/2 indh wood plug cutter also from a hardware store. You can also get different size cutters from some of the shot gun supply places like Dixie gun worksor the Possables Shop if you wish to buy them. The felt wads work best for me if they are a bit oversized and greased with bore butter.Lee

http://www.possibleshop.com/wads.htm
http://dixiegunworks.com/
http://www.octobercountry.com/products2.php?categoryid=380
http://www.three-peaks.net/muzzle.htm

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

Thanks Lee, heading for the store to check out the possibilities.

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

I just bought some T/C bore buttons I htink they are called for my New Enlgander. I am going to try them with Maxi-balls, maxi-hunters and Great Plains Conicals. I have asked before but do you put them down on top of the charge first or put them halfway in and load the bullet on top? Basically, what is the best way?

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

I pour the powder in and it there is a little bullet lube on the bottom of the bullet then I stick it to the bottom of the bullet. Or I just stick it in the bbl then load my bullet. Seat everything, cap and have at it!!

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

You can make your own bore buttons for a .50 caliber with a 1/2 or 9/16th hollow hole punch. Then get some construction wool felt at the lumber yard. This is the stuff they put around your doors and windows for insulation. I like to get the wide stuff.

If you want to purchase excellent quality bore buttons at a reasonable price, call 1-317-933-3441 the company is called Flintlocks Inc. John & Anne Eder make bore buttons and sell them lubed or unlubed. I get the unlubed. They are much cheaper them most of the other online stores. For information and prices, email them at [email protected] (information taken off their business card).

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

I don't see any difference between seating the wad first or putting it in the barrel a little and then seating the bullet and wad at the same time.

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

Almost all of the time for me and a wide varietyof bores,a wad under a PRB or a conical will not only give greater accuracy, but also allow for a heavier powder charge as the wad protects against gas-cutting.

Here is a great link to make your own wads. You need a punch, felt and lube. I use the durofelt.
www.durofelt.com.

Also for lubing your newly cut wads, put them in a shallow bowl and then pour melted bore butter over them then remove after cooling.

Here is a great link for information:

http://history-sites.com/mb/cw/cwaemb/index.cgi?noframes;read=1135

Tahquamenon

RE: Over powder wad or cornmeal?
 

Tahquamenon - What stock number do you order from them?