RE: JB bore paste
 

"i was always warned that jewlers rouge can get into the metal pores and stay there"

Not true. Been using jeweler's rougeintwo grits for 40 years.

RE: JB bore paste
 

I am fairly new to Mls and I've read alot of posts about JB bore paste.
Before getting into the blackpowder side of things, I only shot and hunted with centerfire and rimfire rifles and pistols, so this is where my experience lies.
One of the things I was taught as a lad in Alaska regarding guns ( by my Grandpop and my Dad) is that they almost considered it a sin to put an abrasive down a rifle barrel. They used bore brushes infrequently and depended on good solvents to eliminate fouling.
Maybe it's that age old Scots/Irish thing about trying to make a tool last a lifetime rather than purchase again. It seems to me that using any abrasive would be the same as a few hundred or a thousand rounds through that barrel, and in doing so, shortens the life of said barrel.
I don't know. I do know my Grandpop wouldn't part with a nickel if he could help it.;)
Not trying to be contentious, just don't completely understand the reasoning I guess.

I guess my question is,... are new muzzleloader barrels that much rougher than a center or rimfire barrel, that it has to be polished before it'll shoot right?

RE: JB bore paste
 

I think if you check there are a lot of people that use the bullets with abrasive on them to break in new centerfire barrels. It sort of depends on what you think is required to "break in" a barrel. In the case of the muzzleloader a lot depends on how the rifle loads which is not part of the centerfire routine. My Omega was a bit#@ to load and polishing with JB made the loading a lot easier. All rifle barrels have some machining roughness remaining. Probably the cut ones are a little worse than the button rifled ones but again it is sort of your decision. As I mentioned before just a lot of shooting solid lead bullets will eventually break in your muzzleloader. Doc White says to not be concerned with how your rifle shoots until the first 200 loads. Thats a lot of shooting for me as I have trouble getting that much range time. With four new rifles last year that means 800 rounds.

RE: JB bore paste
 

I see your point.
For a competitive shooter, or someone concerned with how tight he can get the groups on a target, that makes sense. Every rifle I have ever owned, I can sight in and be happy with out of the box. I never have been concerned with MOA. I'm not exactly the poster boy for benchrest shooting.:D
For you fellas that want to do it, more power to ya. Just can't see it myself.