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frontier gander 01-18-2008 12:18 PM

New Englander arrived this morning
 
Just checked the mail and there was the tc new englander! Post master really liked it. Got it home and looked it over, the stock doesnt even have a mark on it! The barrel on the other hand has barely any rifling due to the last owners friend/brother not cleaning the rifle after shooting it. How bad is the barrel? Picture a civic war era muzzleloader that sat in a field for 100 years in the dirt before someone found it:D Almost no rifling left! No biggie, It gets sent back to TC when the hawken arrives. Both rifles are going to warranty service.

overall im really happy with the rifle. A lot heavier than i thought but hey, im young [8D]





cayugad 01-18-2008 12:24 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
the weight is because of the wood stock. A lot of New Englanders come with the black composite stock which was a big selling point as it reduced the weight and made them easy to carry all day. That is a real nice looking rifle there.

Tahquamenon 01-18-2008 12:43 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
Nice looking T/C New Englander. Definetely one of my favorite ML's.

Pretty decent of Thompson/Center to warranty your used NE huh?

Redpep 01-18-2008 12:47 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
Just curious as to what they will do under warranty on your guns?

frontier gander 01-18-2008 12:48 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
They all have a warranty. Some are just to hard headed and refuse to use'em

frontier gander 01-18-2008 12:50 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
with the NE, they are either going to replace the .54 or put a 12g barrel on it for free. The hawken needs lock work. Also the NE might get a new lock, this has some rust on it.
Hope they'll just put the 12g barrel on the NE. rather have that.

sabotloader 01-18-2008 01:02 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
FG

More power to you if TC replaces a neglected barrel. I once tried to get a 54 Renegade barrel replaced - severly pitted - they did not buy that one.

Good luck to you.

frontier gander 01-18-2008 01:05 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
they wouldnt replace it? Why not?

sabotloader 01-18-2008 01:18 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
FG

Basically because the previous owner did not clean it. And he was using regular BP. The barrel did not fail because of workmanship or just wear out. It was neglected by the original owner. I picked it up off e-bay, as a barrel that was in good shape - as he said.

frontier gander 01-18-2008 01:22 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
well if they wont repair it i'll see about getting it bored to .56cal smoothbore.

Anyone know who does reboring jobs?

cayugad 01-18-2008 01:28 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
I was going to say... if they warranty that neglected barrel, then your a lucky person. Their warranty is pretty clear that it is to the original purchaser of the rifle and they do not cover warranty on alterations, or neglected or abused rifles. If the prior owner abused the barrel by not cleaning it, I would think Thompson Center would be in their legal rights to refuse any warranty work on the rifle. Although they have been great in the past with small odds and ends to me, I have never asked them to warranty an abused barrel like what you're describing.

Tahquamenon 01-18-2008 01:48 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
I would wait and see what T/C does. Yes their warranty does state original purchaser.

However, over the years I have sent them usedstocks, locks, barrels, sights, trigger assemblies for repair and they have always warrantied everything. Most of the time they simply ship me a new replacement. Although I have never sent them anything that was obviously neglected.

That may be or have changed?

Although they are warranty removing abroken stuckbrush in one of my 45 barrels (used)this week in fact.

If for some reason they don't replace the barrel for free, then perhaps they will offer a replacement or you could search for a used barrel or another NE with a decent barrel?

I would not fool with trying to have a .56 bored out.

M2C,

Tahquamenon

frontier gander 01-18-2008 01:56 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
$140 for a replacement barrel with crappy qla, $175 for 12g shotgun barrel. Depending on how much it runs, a .56cal rebore seems the most likely if TC doesnt cover the barrel.

sabotloader 01-18-2008 02:48 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
FG

Try calling Green Mountain - they have some unadvertised specials going on right now that are really decent... I just replaced my ptted 54 with a new GM-LRH 50 cal barrel - it was $150 shipped here... might also check TOW they often have some really decent prices...

frontier gander 01-18-2008 07:29 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
After an hour of using brasso and steelwool, im finally able to make out some rifling. What a shame. The rifling towards the bottom, the last 15-16" looks good with very little pitting. Makes me wonder how the heck just the first section of barrel could get like this.




sabotloader 01-18-2008 08:05 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
FG

What a waste of a good gun - somebody just let it rust itself to death

You know just had another thought... If TC were to replace that barrel - I wonder if it would have a QLA on a New Englander barrel... You quoted $140 in one of your earlier posts... that actually is not a bad price for a barrel and if the stock is good you might be able to justify that expense to end up with a quality older TC... just thinking

wabi 01-18-2008 08:30 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
I like your idea of a .56 smoothbore. Might just be a useful barrel if it were re-bored.
If you locate anyone who can do the re-boring let us know!

gleason.chapman 01-18-2008 09:11 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 

ORIGINAL: frontier gander

well if they wont repair it i'll see about getting it bored to .56cal smoothbore.

Anyone know who does reboring jobs?
I just bought a Green Mountain FL barrel for $95 + $12 shipping. Have not got it yet, but Cayugad bought one so I called and got one. 1:28 for sabot shooting in a FL. Call and talk to Kerry, nice people. Chap Gleason

frontier gander 01-18-2008 09:19 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
Sabotloader, Other than the rusted bore, the rifle is in perfect shape. Not even a scratch or ding on the stock! Has a nice metal buttplate. The sights are excellent too. I hate the ugly big trigger guard, can i swap this out with a hawken guard?

I like the idea too of a .56cal smoothie, I noticed they had a .56smoothie renegade. I figured i could shoot 50-75 yards with PRB and then load up with shot for rabbits and grouse.

Chap, this has a round barrel on it, Is your new barrel round too? I guess i'll have to call around on this.

Im in no hurry, i have plenty of muzzleloaders to use so i'll try not to get rushed. The barrel still goes back to TC ASAP! I emailed them and told them it was really bad and she said its covered for life and to send it in for warranty replacement so.. We will see.



mcawful 01-19-2008 05:14 AM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
FG, if T/C doesn't replace it, have you considered a barrel liner?
A smith could do it, though in the end, it may be more $ than a replacement barrel.
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frontier gander 01-19-2008 12:49 PM

RE: New Englander arrived this morning
 
that would be a good option if they had bigger calibers. I dont even bother with 50's anymore. They offer a .45 but i already have an excellent shooting .45
I'll send it in to TC first and then deal with it after.


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