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johnny2 01-14-2008 08:13 AM

How to tell nipple size
 
M6X1 is what the book says---Is this what I ask for or does this
translate into something in english....This is for the Traditions
Crocket rifle..Or am I not understanding it..

Arthur P 01-14-2008 08:23 AM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
It's nothing really mind blowing... just a metric thread size designation instead ofstandard.Your M6X1 means 6mm diameter with thread pitch of 1.

johnny2 01-14-2008 08:28 AM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
Thanks for clearing that up for me....

cayugad 01-14-2008 10:00 AM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
On most sites when you order a nipple or on the paper backing of the nipple it will say.. made to fit CVA or Tradition rifles. There are other metric sizes out there for Lyman, and for black powder revolvers. So just read carefully before you place the order.

T/C - KNIGHT - GREEN MOUNTAIN BARREL COMPANY= 1/4 X 28 #11 PERCUSSION NIPPLE STAINLESS STEEL
LYMAN = 6 X .75mm #11 percussion nipple
CVA - TRADITIONS - OTHER BPI RIFLES = 6mm X 1 percussion nipple.

Also do yourself a favor and when you replace the nipple get a stainless steel hot shot nipple. They seem to direct the flame from the cap better and do increase the ability of the rifle to fire more consistantly. Plus they last a LOT longer then the old style ones.

johnny2 01-14-2008 10:26 AM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
Cauygad---Thanks for the heads up on the nipple....Glad your
here to help out...Is dixie the only place to order things?
Seems to me there must be other places..A friend of mine in PA
had a black powder shop..He had several places he ordered from.
But the again he was a dealer..Thanks again..John

cayugad 01-14-2008 11:22 AM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
There are tons of on line stores with lots better prices then Dixie Gun Works. Look at Mid South Shooters Supply, Midway USA, RMC Sports, Natchez.com, Cains Outdoors... all of them carry muzzleloader supplies and are great to do business with..

Semisane 01-14-2008 12:16 PM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
When I was a young man I decided it would be a good thing to do some nipple size experiments,but kept getting slapped in the face when I tried to measure them. :eek:

HUNT4ME 01-14-2008 02:27 PM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
Semisane....Wet t-shirts seem to always work for me.Now did anybody expect the original post to go unscathed? hunt4me

crokit 01-14-2008 02:41 PM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
Although it is extremely difficult, I'm going to leave this one alone.LMAO!!

Underclocked 01-14-2008 02:50 PM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 

johnny2 01-14-2008 04:09 PM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
Semisane----I think I have to agree with your wife now
You are Insane...But I love it----A slap in the face is still
better than a night in jail though....:D:D:D:D:D:D

sabotloader 01-14-2008 04:11 PM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
HUNT4ME


Now did anybody expect the original post to go unscathed?
NO! but, I am just glad it wasn't me that started the turn down...

cascadedad 01-14-2008 04:22 PM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 

ORIGINAL: Semisane

When I was a young man I decided it would be a good thing to do some nipple size experiments,but kept getting slapped in the face when I tried to measure them. :eek:
I tried it once.

jboynjazz 01-18-2008 07:07 PM

RE: How to tell nipple size
 
johnny2 only says that because during his night in jail he tried to measure the jailers nipple and woke up with his pants around his ancles, an empty k-y tube next to him and a warm fuzzy place in his heart for his cell mate.

Best4u 02-05-2022 05:56 PM

Nipple size VS cap size
 
I have a related question. I have read multiple posts on multiple forums trying to find out what cap size I am supposed to use on a New Englander muzzle loader I recently acquired. According to the manual, I should be using #11 caps. Does not fit the nipple. I believe the nipple was replaced with a non-standard. When people are asking for nipple size, why does the answers refer to thread size? If the thread is 1/4X28, it does not affect the end where the nipple goes. or am I missing something. That beats my logic. I have a #11 nipple wrench and the hole inside the wrench is to small for the nipple to fit in leading me to believe the nipple size is not #11. I measured the end of my nipple where the cap goes. It measure 0.219 OD. What size cap should I get to fit this nipple? I purchased #12 and it is too small. I bought no 1081 FL purely by visual reference and it is too big. The way the caps are packaged, you open it, it is yours. No returns. So how do I know what to buy?

sabotloader 02-06-2022 06:26 AM

Just guessing but it sounds like you might have a Musket Cap nipple in on the New Englander



The 3rd nipple from the left.

Best4u 02-06-2022 12:31 PM

Thank you for the picture. Great to be able to picture the different nipples side by side. Considering your estimation of what I have on the rifle and I have the 1081 caps. In your opinion, when fitting a cap to the nipple, how tight is the fit?. The 1081 cap which is supposedly a musket cap fits loosely around the nipple. It is not a press-fit. What is the norm?

sabotloader 02-06-2022 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Best4u (Post 4401906)
Thank you for the picture. Great to be able to picture the different nipples side by side. Considering your estimation of what I have on the rifle and I have the 1081 caps. In your opinion, when fitting a cap to the nipple, how tight is the fit?. The 1081 cap which is supposedly a musket cap fits loosely around the nipple. It is not a press-fit. What is the norm?

Often it is not a great fit with a Musket cap - most just squeeze the cap a little bit then push it on to the nipple post. I much prefer using #11 caps on the correct nipple. A lot of the old timers do not want to use a capper and with a #11 the capper makes a lot of difference,


Ridge Runner 02-11-2022 12:50 AM

the nipple is tapered, if its just a bit loose, grind or file the tip down till the cap fits. since it is tapered, the shorter ya make it the larger the diameter.


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