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wv bow hunter 01-03-2008 09:04 PM

need some help?
 
I have a new cva buckhorn and am looking for some input on a good combination of powder and bullets to get me started. I have a box of hornaday .45-240 sabots and a box of triple seven pellets. Also how should I clean the new gun before shooting it for the first time?

cayugad 01-03-2008 09:48 PM

RE: need some help?
 

ORIGINAL: wv bow hunter

I have a new cva buckhorn and am looking for some input on a good combination of powder and bullets to get me started. I have a box of hornaday .45-240 sabots and a box of triple seven pellets. Also how should I clean the new gun before shooting it for the first time?
Two pellets and one of them 240 grain XTP would be a good start load. As for cleaning.. the directions are in the book. Read the manual and follow the directions. I like to use Simple Green Cleaner as a good fowling remover.

little-d 01-03-2008 09:56 PM

RE: need some help?
 
i would start with 80 to 90 then try a 100 or alittle more. you will need to take it all the way down and clean with a good grease cutter then shine her back up.

frontier gander 01-03-2008 10:05 PM

RE: need some help?
 
New rifle i would use a good degreaser down the bore with a cleaning brush and then some more degreaser and run patches until they are clean. After cleaning i like to run a couple patches of windex down the bore.

Indiana SmokePole 01-03-2008 10:41 PM

RE: need some help?
 

ORIGINAL: frontier gander

New rifle i would use a good degreaser down the bore with a cleaning brush and then some more degreaser and run patches until they are clean. After cleaning i like to run a couple patches of windex down the bore.
As far as a load Combo when you shoot up all of the pellets go to some loose 2fg 777 this way you can tweak your loads better and try a couple diff. bullets also.
Like the Hornady SST and the Speer Gold Dot 250gr.

goatbrother 01-03-2008 11:25 PM

RE: need some help?
 
It's new? Came with a manual? Did you read the manual? Lots of good advice above, hope you read the manual before you go to shoot it, have fun and be safe.

wv bow hunter 01-04-2008 07:51 AM

RE: need some help?
 
Yes I have the manual and have read cover to cover twice... It only says to dissasemble and clean but is not very clear on what to clean with or what procedures to use thats why I am asking for advise...thanks

cayugad 01-04-2008 12:17 PM

RE: need some help?
 
When I clean the Staghorn I own..

[ul][*]remove the lock lug[*]remove the hammer spring[*]remove the hammer striker and striker cocking arm this will now allow you to go through the back of the rifle to the breech plug[*]with your breech plug removal tool, remove the breech plug. Set that dirty plug in a small container of soap and water to soak. You can also put the hammer striker in there with it. The end will be fowled for hitting the 209 primers.[*]remove the two locking lugs that hold the barrel into the stock[*]remove the two screws that hold the trigger assembly to the bottom of the barrel and take the barrel off. You should now have just the barrel that you can see through in your hands. I will tell you a couple ways I clean that barrel.[/ul]
[ol][*]take the barrel to a sink and using a cup pour hot soapy water through the barrel breech end, down through the muzzleend. This will rinse the major fowling out of the barrel. It is not clean mind you, but will clean up real fast.[*]take a breech brush and slide that into the back of the rifle. Squirt just a little soap on the nylon bristles. Now cover that breech with your hand or you will be cleaning up a mess. Start pushing that breech brush into the barrel over the breech plug threads. Work that soap into a lather. And then twist that brush in a clockwise direction. Pull it back out, and rinse the barrel with soapy water again. If you look the breech threads are now very clean, which is real important.[*]Saturate a patch with solvent. Push that saturated patch from the breech to the muzzle. Working it 2-4 inches at a time in short strokes. After you push it through, repeat the process with another solvent patch. I do normally three patches this way.[*]If you suspect lead, copper or plastic fowling in the barrel.. dip a brass brush in solvent and scrub the barrel in long strokes end to end. Never short stroke your brass brush as it kills them.[*]Now push a patch with some isopropyl alcohol on it ... through the barrel. This will help pull and remove any moisture in that barrel.[*]Now it is a matter of dry patching the barrel. It should really shine if you look through it. Any hard fowling might take some extra scrubbing but this normally makes a real clean barrel.[*]Take the trigger assembly outside and spray the guts of it with carburetor cleaner. Be careful is the trigger is plastic. Now shake it real hard with your hand. It will almost be dry. If you have an air compressor, squirt forced air into the trigger assembly. This will blow any moisture out of it. If not, pour some alcohol through it. Shake it again, and then squirt a few drops of gun oil on the spring and sear.[*]Clean the breech plug with solvent or soapy water. An old toothbrush will scrub that thing nice and clean. Wipe it down real good with patches to make sure it is dry. Also blow through he vent to make sure there is no moisture in there. Now re- grease it and put that back in the rifle barrel.[*]With a patch and good quality gun oil, swab that barrel bore. Make sure you cover it real well.[*]With that same patch wipe the bottom of the barrel with the trigger assembly fits.[*]Replace the trigger assembly.[*]wipe the hammer striker off real good. I use Q-tips to clean the nose of the hammer striker. Wipe that down the the oil patch as well and slide that back into the back of the rifle.[*]Put the hammer striker cocking rod in place.[*]replace the hammer striker spring[*]wipe the locking lug off with the oil patch. If it has a rubber O ring on the end, make sure to oil that as it helps seal the back of the barrel.[*]replace the locking lug nut.[*]Check the action and make sure it cocks, holds true and the trigger releases crisp and clean.[*]Wipe the rest of the barrel off and put it back in the stock.[*]wipe the locking lug nuts off and then put them back through the stock, locking the barrel in place.[*]Give the rifle a once over with the oil patch and the rifle should be ready to be stored.[/ol]
This was off the top of my head so I hope I did not miss anything . This should get you close to how to clean the rifle... anything I missed I am sure the others will add.

Gotbuck 01-04-2008 02:17 PM

RE: need some help?
 
Here is some good advice on cleaning. I have links at the bottom with pictures so it helps to see what your doing.

http://www.huntingnet.com//forum/tm.aspx?m=2551877

falcon 01-04-2008 02:33 PM

RE: need some help?
 
Hot water and soap is the best way to clean a muzzleloader but mywife has trouble with me messing the sink up.


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