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Indiana SmokePole 12-30-2007 12:03 AM

LOAD FOR 45cal
 
I just bought a Disc Extreme .45cal never owned a .45 before only .50cal
looking for the optimal starting point, still havn't made up mind if I want to shoot sabots or Bull Shop Conicals.
I have 50cal Disc Ext. that I shoot both out of, and a KRB that I shoot the BS Conicals out of but not sure of the .45.
Any Help on suggestions would be great

Thanks

TimberCreek 12-30-2007 12:18 AM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
I use 90gr T7 loosewith MMP Sabots and 180 gr Speer Gold Dot HP in my Win Apex 45.

You can buy the sabotsdirect and free shipping.
http://mmpsabots.domainhost.com/store/page1.html


gleason.chapman 12-30-2007 07:33 AM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 

ORIGINAL: Indiana SmokePole

I just bought a Disc Extreme .45cal never owned a .45 before only .50cal
looking for the optimal starting point, still havn't made up mind if I want to shoot sabots or Bull Shop Conicals.
I have 50cal Disc Ext. that I shoot both out of, and a KRB that I shoot the BS Conicals out of but not sure of the .45.
Any Help on suggestions would be great

Thanks
I wrote to this about a week ago here:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2533545

I cut and paste it into here for your convenience, best wishes on bullet selection, it is >>the<< most important part of ML shooting, 'cause it is doing the work of the gun.

Bullet selection for the .45 cal is sparce, they make a Barnes MZ for the .45:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0003540052

that is one of the best, if it will shoot well in your gun. Hornady XTPs would stay together better than a PB, but they separate from their jackets at hight speed (i.e. close shots):

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=00072XTP24520

If ya wanted to get a bit more range than the Hornady XTP, then there is a .45 Hornady SST:
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0000367132


A better bullet would be the Speer Gold Dot at .400 diameter, 180g (there are 100 in a box of these bullets for $22, that is 22 cents each, you can beat that):

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000214406

you of course would mate this with a Sabot designed for .45 cal bullets such as Harvester Crushed rib:
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=00072H14540BR

or Harvester Black:
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=00072H4540B

Those are your choices and all are better than a PB in my opinion, but that is mine only, not a universal truth. Best Wishes on your bullet selection.
Chap Gleason

Underclocked 12-30-2007 10:19 AM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
I know you have seen this before -http://www.sunrisearchery.com/bullet.htm. ThatLEE 457-340-F shot great out of my .45 Knight Elite. If you want to roll yer own.

deerhunter518 12-30-2007 10:19 AM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
i would shoot the sabots you get better long range ballistics than conicals

Nimrodder 12-30-2007 10:41 AM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
I tried the 420gr BS conicals in my .45 Disc Extreme. I got good accuracy if I kept the powder charge at 55grs or lower (T7 3f). I sold mine and bought a White .451. Shoots conicals and sabots better than the Knight.

Indiana SmokePole 12-30-2007 04:49 PM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
Thanks Guys

oldsmellhound 12-30-2007 06:54 PM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
Indiana,

This is the load I use in my .45:

10mm 200 grain XTP
MMP sabot
80 grains loose 777
Federal primer

I'm sighted in to be dead on at 100 yards. It's maybe 1/2 inch high at 50 yards, and I haven't experimented much past 100 yards, but according to the charts I've looked at, it should only be 5-6 inches low at 150. Past 150 it's going to drop pretty fast.

I've taken 2 deer with this load, both BOOM-flops at around 100 yards.


frontier gander 12-30-2007 06:59 PM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
Not a knight, but my .45 lovesa 225 grain powerbelt over 80 grains triple 7 or pyrodex p. Deadly on deer.

LaneNebraska 12-30-2007 07:26 PM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 

ORIGINAL: oldsmellhound

Indiana,

This is the load I use in my .45:

10mm 200 grain XTP
MMP sabot
80 grains loose 777
Federal primer

I'm sighted in to be dead on at 100 yards. It's maybe 1/2 inch high at 50 yards, and I haven't experimented much past 100 yards, but according to the charts I've looked at, it should only be 5-6 inches low at 150. Past 150 it's going to drop pretty fast.

I've taken 2 deer with this load, both BOOM-flops at around 100 yards.


Hound

Did you recover any of the bullets? Please describe the internal damage if you can.

Anyone else recovered any 10mm/40cal XTP's from deer, please go ahead and chime in:)

LaneNebraska 12-30-2007 07:31 PM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 

A better bullet would be the Speer Gold Dot at .400 diameter, 180g (there are 100 in a box of these bullets for $22, that is 22 cents each, you can beat that):

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000214406

Chap

Just when I thought I had tried every 40cal bullet out there[&:]

I must of been asleep at the wheel[8D] Now I GOTTA get me some of these Gold Dots!;)

lemoyne 12-31-2007 09:45 AM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 






BERRY 40 (.401) 200gr FP BULLET PER 100
Item Number: BY402F·Availability: In stock[/align]





Quantity:
100
$13.19
500
$62.65
1000
$118.71
2000
$229.51 [/align]





BERRY 40 (.401) 200gr HP BULLET PER 100
Item Number: BY402H·Availability: In stock[/align]





Quantity:
100
$13.59
500
$64.55
1000
$122.31
2000
$236.47 [/align]





BERRY 40 (.401) 200gr RS BULLET PER 100
Item Number: BY402R·Availability: In stock[/align]





Quantity:
100
$13.19
500
$62.65
1000
$118.71
2000
$229.51 [/align]Check these out. Lee
http://www.grafs.com/metallic/560

LaneNebraska 12-31-2007 09:50 AM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
Lee

Have you fired any of those 200g Berry hollow points? What did you think of them?



TimberCreek 12-31-2007 09:54 AM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
They don't look to be a bonded bullet? are the just coated? how well do they hold up?

Underclocked 12-31-2007 11:23 AM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
Cabela's reviewers describe the Berry bullets as heavy plated, very accurate, primarily for plinking or target use. I didn't find many references to hunting use but I would think the hollowpoint would surely be okay. Cabela's actually has a good price on these in 250 packs.

TimberCreek 12-31-2007 01:54 PM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
Thats what I thought. Un-bonded bullets will separate from the plating, which will loose energy and slow penatration.Bonded bullets usually will not separate from the jacket. Just because a bullet is cheap does not make it worth using on an animal or humane.Great for plinking, and definately would not use the flat nose for hunting.

gleason.chapman 12-31-2007 04:22 PM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 

ORIGINAL: LaneNebraska


A better bullet would be the Speer Gold Dot at .400 diameter, 180g (there are 100 in a box of these bullets for $22, that is 22 cents each, you can beat that):

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000214406

Chap

Just when I thought I had tried every 40cal bullet out there[&:]

I must of been asleep at the wheel[8D] Now I GOTTA get me some of these Gold Dots!;)
Amen, there ya go. They are a good strong bonded bullet that is inexpensive. Chap Gleason

Underclocked 12-31-2007 05:01 PM

RE: LOAD FOR 45cal
 
I might buy some of those Berry bullets if they were .399 instead of .401. ;)


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