what grain are you using on whitetails
 

im just wondering what others are using on whitetails out there .50cals. for shots under 100yds

list the grain and sabot+ the powder charge

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In my Encore i use the 250 grain SST in the tight fitting black or red sabot along with 90-120 grains of JSG.In my old Staghorn i use 100 grains of Pyrodex loose or pellets along with the .44 caliber XTP in the short black sabot.

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TC Pro-Hunter,,, three Shockey's Gold Sticks,,, 300 grain Nosler PP,,, CCI 209m.

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300g XTP MAG in a Harvester Crush Rib pushed by 100g Pyrdoex RS

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In my Knight Disc, I use 90grs FFF Goex and a 250 T/C Shockwave.

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CVA Wolf,

300gr Barnes Expander MZ w/Crushed Rib sabots
100gr Pyrodex pellets
Remington Kleen Bore primers

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It varies from rifle to rifle. I might be shooting a roundball one day, a conical bullet or a sabot. Then it might be loaded with a sabot from 200 grains to 375 grain. Powder charges might vary from 65 grains to 120 grains. I like to use different rifles almost every day, although when hunting certain areas of the property I will often times take one or twoparticular rifle best suited for that area. More so for their sights then their projectiles.

Use the rifle that pushs the best designed projectile at the required speed for the projectile to react efficiently and as intended, but with the greatest and consistant accuracy. That is my Whitetail load.

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Blk. Dia.
240 gr. Speer JSP .429 Gold Dotw/gn. sabot. I don't know the maker of sabot.
Load is 70 grs. of Pyro P
3pass thru broadside chest shots.
Onedeer iused a blk.sabot xtp 240gr HP.452 thru both shoulders and it was lodged between ribs 70 grs. of Pyro P. That i did't like at all, so i will shoot the few up on target practice.

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I've been using a solid lead conical made by Bullshop; 460 gr pushed by 90 gr 777 2F. This year I'm going to use the 400 grainer pushed by 100 gr 777 2F.

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Allseasonhunter7

Using the Remington or a 50cal Renegade during a late doe deer season...

For the Remington -> 260 grain Nosler Partion, HPH-24 sabot, 110 grains t7-2f

For the Renegade -> 460 grain Bull Shop, 90 grains t7-3f, Dynamint Noble 1075+ cap
(In Idaho this year we are required to use conicals & pivoting hammer)

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240 XTP & 90grs of Goex 2f

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120 grains of T7 with 300 grain .45 cal Speer Uni-Cor SP.

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In the Mustang - 100 grains T-7 FFG & 300 grain Gold Dot (1750 fps).
In the New Englander - 90 grains Pyrodex RS & 385 grain Hornaday Great Plains (1150 fps).

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T/C Omega
150 grain Pyrodex
250 Grain Hornady SST-ML with the red sabot (The reds are easier to load than the blacks)

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i didnt post mine i figured i was the only one who prefered knockdown over speed

300gr t/c superglide 100 gr triple7

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I never needed more than 70 grs of 3F Schutzen pushing a 250 gr REAL in my 50 Flinter. I use the same load in my Knight as long as the shots are under a 100 yards. Works fine as the full freezer shows. It's heavily wooded here so long shots would be a rarity.
Rock Lock

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I am using 250 grn shockwaves with 130grn pellets. 2 50 s and a 30.pyrodex

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460 Bullshop, 1 fiberwad, 80grns T-7 ff in White U-Mag

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Z5 Omega, 250gr SG Shockwave, 2 - 50gr 777 pellets Deadly accurate from my rifle. 1/2 - 1" groups @100yrds. (with a rest of course)

chris

oh yea, I'm also using the VariFlame ignition with standardWinchester small pistol primers. (WSP)

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I am not using a darn thing deer won't come close enough or stand still long enough for a shot! If they did I shoot a 300 gr cast 429 in green sabot and 11o gr shockly gold 3f

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This season a 300 grain XTP mag in front of 100 gr. Pyrodex R/S.
I've found it's more important to place the bullet accurately and that's what this rifle likes best.
I've used several weights and brands over the years and I've found about any good quality bullet placed in the right spot will drop one quickly. But the best bullet made placed in the wrong spot leaves a wounded deer running off.
(Disclaimer - The one exception to my rule was the buck a buddy shot under and took off two legs with a Barnes Expander MZ, took another shot to finish it, but it didn't go anywhere [&:])

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1. Savage 10ML2 44g of 5744 Smokeless Powder with an MMP12 Sabot, 275g Parker Ballistic Extreme (discard supplied sabot too loose), Winchester Primer

2. TC Omega, 100g loose 777, 300g Nosler Partition PP Hand Gun bullet, Crushed rib sabot, Winchester Primer

3. Knight Disc, 100g loose 777, 300g Nosler Partition PP Hand Gun bullet, Crushed rib sabot, Winchester Primer

4.TC Hawken Flintlock, 80 of loose 3f Goex powder, crushed rib sabot, Speer Gold Dot 300g Jacket Pistol bullet.

300g bullets have higher BC, retain more energy down range, shoot thru a big deer, will break shoulder and get into vitals, 250s and lighter don't >>>always<<< shoot thru, you want expansion AND shoot thru for tracking, you want 0 fragmentation and near 100% weight retention---therefore a stronger bullet, that expands to 2x if possible---Noslers do that, Gold Dot do that, Barnes do that. Parker Ballistic Extreme seem to do that--they are accurate as heck.

Chap Gleason

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Just be careful to match the structure of the bullet and the speed it was designed for to the velocity ypur getting. For instance a 200 gr 50/40 Shock Wave does good at 1700 to 2200 fps while a 245 gr PB does good from 1200 to 1500 fps a 295 gr Sabortooth 1400 to 1800 fps a 250gr Gold Dot is good from 1500 to 1900 a 250 gr Shock Wave is good for 1600 to 1900 the 300 gr XTP, Shock Wave and gold Dot are good from 1800 to what ever you can get. These are approxmate from my experance,but they are the working range I have worked out for my own use.I am sure you get the idea. Lee

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I have a Knight original disc and I use a 300 grain Lightfield bullet over 120 grains of American Pioneer Jim Shockey Gold powder.

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CVA Wolf: 300gr Barnes Expander, 100-110gr APP, Rem Cleanbore Primer

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I have a Knight Revolution & I shoot 80 grs of 777 & 240 gr Dead Center bullet.

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Great info Lee. What we really need is the reloaders book for MLer (Like the Barnes or Nosler Reloading Manual for CF rifles) that lists bullets appropiate for MLer and their design characteristcs, BC, SD, code for size of game, etc. Does the Lyman Reloaders manaual do all that? Chap Gleason

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Chap
Reloaders manuals, give speeds in relation to a certain cartridge and diamentions for bullets ect. But no info on the actual velocity range of the bullets, certain co. give out some charts I used to have some when we had the shop but they dont match up with muzzleloader velocities.
My info is worked up from shooting a couple of tests like wet newspapers with a leather front and back set up about the theckness of a nice size bucks body; then taken into the field and tried on deer, myself and several friends have been doing this for years, we dont always like the same thing even when we get the same results[ just like here] I want bang flop because sometimes I like to hunt public land [even though I have my own] my buddie wants passthroughs even if it means doing a bit of tracking so he uses heavier bullets as a rule. Lee

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In my CVA Optima Pro I am shooting 100 grains loose 777 and a 260 grain .451 Nosler partition HP with an MMP sabot and a Winchester primer. It's the most devistating thing i have seen out of all of the deer I have killed with any weapon i have ever used. I just shot a doe tonight with that combo and it looked like a crime scene. Exit wound was about the size of a quarter.

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Lee, Thanks for the info. I am with your buddy, I want passthroughs. I use heavy bullets, like 300g Nosler Partitions Hand Gun. Thanks Chap

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For the Omega I used 300 gr Hornady SST, 100 T7 2f, win 209 Primer but have switched to 300 .451 Nosler Partition HG PP w/ 110 gr T7 2f and a 209 Win Primer. (This load is intended for moose as well as deer/bear and is very accurate in my Omega).

My Lyman GPR .50 is strictly .495 PRB over 90 3F Goex w/ 3f Goex for prime.

The Traditions E-Bolt likes 100 gr Pyrodex RS, Win 209 Primer and a .452 240 gr XTP Mag

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300 grain Shockwave with 2 .50 cal Pyrodex Pellets out of my Omega.

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In my knight wolverine, 80 grains 777 and a 220 grain precision rifle dead center bullet set off by a #11 cap. Great accuracy and incredible performance within 100 yards. Let us know what you go with. Good luck, Greg

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100yds being fairly close range, I'd use 90-110gr pyrodex, and a 240 or 300gr XTP. I like 130gr pyrodex w/ 250gr shockwave for mule deer here in western NE in my Omega.