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dilema
One of the farms I hunt,, the son just turned 12 and got his lic this week. Hes dieing too get out there,, no one in the family muzzleloader hunts. Hes been calling me every evening this week telling me about the deer he is seeing and in what field every evening right before dark. There is a muzzleloader season going on right now in the area. This kid has shot Scoped rimfires and slugguns fairly extensively,, hes never fired a muzzleloader before. I called his dad last night and asked if it would be ok if tried too get him his first deer friday or saturday,, he said no problem,, hes getting harassed to get him a muzzleloader so he can hunt this week. I shoot a scoped optima,, it spits darts at 100 yards for me.. Im wonderring what will happen if I pick him up after school tomorrow and rush out to the field with him and sit down for the last hour and a half of light.. We wont have time for him too fire off a shot. think this gun will hit in generally the same area for him as it does me??? I really would like too get him a shot at a deer,,, and im pretty sure it will happen,, just dont want him too throw one over or under a deer at close range,, not a memory that i want him too have! any thoughts?
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RE: dilema
He should be just fine since the rifle is scoped. Although make sure he only shoots high percentage broadside shots. He should be fine if he aims center mass on a broadside shot. Also watch him so he does not get too excited and pull the shot. He only gets one chance.
I done this with a nephew one year when I took him hunting. He was so excited when this little buck walked out, I had to tell him to calm down. I could see he was about ready to burst. Finally I told him the deer out in the field was not going to be a target. He looked shocked. It was a little four pointer. I told him he could practice sight pictures though. So I had him aim the iron sights on the Renegade on a broadside shot. I then told him to cock the rifle and hit the set trigger, but not to fire the rifle as this was all practice. When I asked if he was aimed dead on, he said he was. So I told him hold your sight picture, and touch the trigger with his finger and just take the slack off it for practice. When the rifle fired, he was surprised. he looked at me with this strange look and I told him.. did you hit it or not. When he looked out in the woods and saw that deer laying there, he did not know what to say until I congratulated him on a fine shot. He then handed me the rifle and told me his knees would not work for him to stand. We still laugh about that when I see him. |
RE: dilema
keep us posted!
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RE: dilema
ORIGINAL: SwampTHING One of the farms I hunt,, the son just turned 12 and got his lic this week. Hes dieing too get out there,, no one in the family muzzleloader hunts. Hes been calling me every evening this week telling me about the deer he is seeing and in what field every evening right before dark. There is a muzzleloader season going on right now in the area. This kid has shot Scoped rimfires and slugguns fairly extensively,, hes never fired a muzzleloader before. I called his dad last night and asked if it would be ok if tried too get him his first deer friday or saturday,, he said no problem,, hes getting harassed to get him a muzzleloader so he can hunt this week. I shoot a scoped optima,, it spits darts at 100 yards for me.. Im wonderring what will happen if I pick him up after school tomorrow and rush out to the field with him and sit down for the last hour and a half of light.. We wont have time for him too fire off a shot. think this gun will hit in generally the same area for him as it does me??? I really would like too get him a shot at a deer,,, and im pretty sure it will happen,, just dont want him too throw one over or under a deer at close range,, not a memory that i want him too have! any thoughts? |
RE: dilema
as long as he has good form then it should shoot equally as well for him as it does for you. Just take a couple of minutes to go over mounting the gun and check him out and make any adjustments to his mounting the gun and it should be ok. Just make sure he isn't in a big hurry to pull the trigger and make sure he is ready when he pulls the trigger.
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RE: dilema
That's a great story Cayugad. It's such a joy to hunt with a youngster. That was a neat little "trick" that you pulled on your nephew;). I'll bet he'll always remember the time that uncle...............
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ORIGINAL: Bigtimer That's a great story Cayugad. It's such a joy to hunt with a youngster. That was a neat little "trick" that you pulled on your nephew;). I'll bet he'll always remember the time that uncle............... |
RE: dilema
Thanks guys,, I was just worried about point of impact. Ill keep him to a shotof under 75 yards and broadside,, we will be sitting in a hunting shack so he will have a good rest to shoot off of. He called tonight and told me about the 5 does and the buck he was watching in the cornfield for an hour tonight... So I asked him if he wanted me to pick him up after school tomorrow and go sit for a couple hours tomorrow and all day saturday if nothing happens tomorrow,, all he could say was really really really?? I sure hope he gets the chance,, hes a good kid and I know this would make his year! Ill keep you posted on what happens.
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RE: dilema
SwampThing,
Way to go man. That is what it is all about. Wish you the best of luck. Let us know what he gets. |
RE: dilema
ORIGINAL: SwampTHING Thanks guys,, I was just worried about point of impact. Ill keep him to a shotof under 75 yards and broadside,, we will be sitting in a hunting shack so he will have a good rest to shoot off of. He called tonight and told me about the 5 does and the buck he was watching in the cornfield for an hour tonight... So I asked him if he wanted me to pick him up after school tomorrow and go sit for a couple hours tomorrow and all day saturday if nothing happens tomorrow,, all he could say was really really really?? I sure hope he gets the chance,, hes a good kid and I know this would make his year! Ill keep you posted on what happens. There is a young man near where I live, who goes to my chuch, who father owns a large farm and loves to hunt---his father didn't hunt, nor any of his uncles. When he was about 14 or 15, I had him register for Hunter Safety Class and drove him tothe course and picked him up after it was done, he only missed 1 question on theTest at the end of the course. I gave/lent him a bow that my son started with, showed him how to make tree stands like this for cheap on his land: http://www.the-gleasons.com/low_cost_tree_stands_for_hunting.htm took him bow hunting several times with my son and gave him a new Optima MLer--- because he loved hunting and I could see it in his eyes (he ALWAYS asked at chuch how I did the previous Sat). My son gave him an 8mm mauser, they hunt togetherat times and are good friends. I is great to see him in college now, working in the building trades AND helping his brother's learn to hunt and basically following in the foot steps thatmy son and Ishowed him. My son is aabout 3 years older than he is. Some cautions: If you give the young man a gun, make sure the mother is OK with it and buy a lock for the gun and give it to the mother. I think the ML is the ideal gun to give a kid, since it is very unlikey younger brothers will be able to load a MLer and shoot it. Too many steps and too difficult to push a bullet down a long bore. Very very rewarding and joyful to me as I am sure it will be to you. May theLord bless yourministry of helps to this young man. Chap Gleason |
RE: dilema
ORIGINAL: cayugad He should be just fine since the rifle is scoped. Although make sure he only shoots high percentage broadside shots. He should be fine if he aims center mass on a broadside shot. Also watch him so he does not get too excited and pull the shot. He only gets one chance. I done this with a nephew one year when I took him hunting. He was so excited when this little buck walked out, I had to tell him to calm down. I could see he was about ready to burst. Finally I told him the deer out in the field was not going to be a target. He looked shocked. It was a little four pointer. I told him he could practice sight pictures though. So I had him aim the iron sights on the Renegade on a broadside shot. I then told him to cock the rifle and hit the set trigger, but not to fire the rifle as this was all practice. When I asked if he was aimed dead on, he said he was. So I told him hold your sight picture, and touch the trigger with his finger and just take the slack off it for practice. When the rifle fired, he was surprised. he looked at me with this strange look and I told him.. did you hit it or not. When he looked out in the woods and saw that deer laying there, he did not know what to say until I congratulated him on a fine shot. He then handed me the rifle and told me his knees would not work for him to stand. We still laugh about that when I see him. |
RE: dilema
ORIGINAL: cayugad I done this with a nephew one year when I took him hunting. He was so excited when this little buck walked out, I had to tell him to calm down. I could see he was about ready to burst. Finally I told him the deer out in the field was not going to be a target. He looked shocked. It was a little four pointer. I told him he could practice sight pictures though. So I had him aim the iron sights on the Renegade on a broadside shot. I then told him to cock the rifle and hit the set trigger, but not to fire the rifle as this was all practice. When I asked if he was aimed dead on, he said he was. So I told him hold your sight picture, and touch the trigger with his finger and just take the slack off it for practice. When the rifle fired, he was surprised. he looked at me with this strange look and I told him.. did you hit it or not. When he looked out in the woods and saw that deer laying there, he did not know what to say until I congratulated him on a fine shot. He then handed me the rifle and told me his knees would not work for him to stand. We still laugh about that when I see him. Let me just send a great big thank you to all you olderguys who took time to show us younger ones the ins and outs of this great tradition of HUNTING. |
RE: dilema
Update,, picked Chase up friday after school.. We rushed out too the blind and sat down. At 4:30 we had 4 does and a buck enter the cornfield and graze at about 200 yards. No shot presented itself. Saturday morning, I picked him up and we went too one of the other farms down the road where I have permission too hunt. Set up where the corners of 2 bushes connect,, a real nice little funnel. About an hour after legal time heard some crashing coming towards us. Told him get the hammer cocked and get ready. Had 2 does fly by us doing mach 90. About 30 seconds later, had 3 coyotes coming down the same trail.. Started too whisper pick one out and take it. He was already raising the gun. His first kill was about a 45 pound coyote, flipped it at 65 yards. We dragged that out of the bush,, farmer met us at the barn. thinking we had a deer he came too look. Thanked Chase for shooting the coyote,, and told him anytime he wants too hunt feel free,, just dont shoot towards the livestock. And then asked me if I knew anyone that hunted predators way too many around.. Ill be helping him out for sure as well as on a couple other local farms this winter.
Saturday afternoon, we got into the blind at 2 pm. 3 pm had a button buck feeding at 90 yards. Asked him if he wanted too take a shot at it. He said no,, wants too see if he can get one of the others. 4 pm had the 4 does come out at 250 yards and start feeding towards us. 4:15 the buck came out same spot and just feed right there. about 30 minutes later the does were under 100 yards from us. Asked him if he wanted one of them.. He really wanted the buck. We sat and watched it for another 15 minutes. It wasnt coming any closer,, just feeding in one area. I told him 17 minutes of legal time left,,and those does are well within range. He agreed and picked out the biggest doe. Made a beutiful broadside shot at 85 yards. Deer ran 40 yards andpiled up. I congratulated him,, we got out of the blind and went and checked it out and tagged it.The smilehe had was incredible,, that was worth it all ill tell you!Told him go up to the house and get the gator, and id clean his deer for him. He gotback about 25 minutes later,,both dad and gramps with him. They were so happy he got a deer. Loaded it up and took it back to the barn and got her hanging. Im sure everyone that would listen heard the stary about 15 times last night.. Im glad the kid got a couple firsts yesterday,, he deserved it!! |
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ORIGINAL: SwampTHING Update,, picked Chase up friday after school.. We rushed out too the blind and sat down. At 4:30 we had 4 does and a buck enter the cornfield and graze at about 200 yards. No shot presented itself. Saturday morning, I picked him up and we went too one of the other farms down the road where I have permission too hunt. Set up where the corners of 2 bushes connect,, a real nice little funnel. About an hour after legal time heard some crashing coming towards us. Told him get the hammer cocked and get ready. Had 2 does fly by us doing mach 90. About 30 seconds later, had 3 coyotes coming down the same trail.. Started too whisper pick one out and take it. He was already raising the gun. His first kill was about a 45 pound coyote, flipped it at 65 yards. We dragged that out of the bush,, farmer met us at the barn. thinking we had a deer he came too look. Thanked Chase for shooting the coyote,, and told him anytime he wants too hunt feel free,, just dont shoot towards the livestock. And then asked me if I knew anyone that hunted predators way too many around.. Ill be helping him out for sure as well as on a couple other local farms this winter. Saturday afternoon, we got into the blind at 2 pm. 3 pm had a button buck feeding at 90 yards. Asked him if he wanted too take a shot at it. He said no,, wants too see if he can get one of the others. 4 pm had the 4 does come out at 250 yards and start feeding towards us. 4:15 the buck came out same spot and just feed right there. about 30 minutes later the does were under 100 yards from us. Asked him if he wanted one of them.. He really wanted the buck. We sat and watched it for another 15 minutes. It wasnt coming any closer,, just feeding in one area. I told him 17 minutes of legal time left,,and those does are well within range. He agreed and picked out the biggest doe. Made a beutiful broadside shot at 85 yards. Deer ran 40 yards andpiled up. I congratulated him,, we got out of the blind and went and checked it out and tagged it.The smilehe had was incredible,, that was worth it all ill tell you!Told him go up to the house and get the gator, and id clean his deer for him. He gotback about 25 minutes later,,both dad and gramps with him. They were so happy he got a deer. Loaded it up and took it back to the barn and got her hanging. Im sure everyone that would listen heard the stary about 15 times last night.. Im glad the kid got a couple firsts yesterday,, he deserved it!! Chap Gleason |
RE: dilema
Well done and I'm glad the gun worked out for him as well.
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