help me figure this bullets out
 

one thing has been bothering me since I bought my first pack of 230 gr w/surefire sabots, WHO makes the bullets for t/c for the package. all the research I have not figured it out yet.

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corey012778

TC has several contracts with Hornady and MMP... but that surefire I am not sure who's that is - I really do not think it is a Hornady.... Is that 230 a 44 cal .430 or a 45 .452? Is it a hollow point or soft point??

Well, guess what I just found it on the Hornady site.... It is a .451 Pistol XTP...

https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_session=700b2d8470b3879b808598c2de8b75f6&p age=shop%2Fbrowse&category_id=359fe1327d393603 3c58b4c83a69f1d3


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45 .451 or .452, packaged with a black sabot it is a Hollow point. I just did a little looking around, only compeny I found that it comes close to what it looks like is SIERRA. I don't think I am right about that. it could be why they did not list the brand on the package too.

https://www.sierrabullets.com/index.cfm?section=store&page=item&stock_nu m=8805


am I right or wrong, I only paid $6 for a 20 pack.

just bothers me that if I end up like this bullet, I like to know who makes it so I can buy a bulk of them.

thats funny, why not say it on the package

RE: help me figure this bullets out
 

corey012778

You could be right...

RE: help me figure this bullets out
 

corey012778

What about this? Does this look like what you have - I hope not...



Does the 230 have any expansion lines down from the nose of the bullet..

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yes but they are not as deep at the ones on the xtp, but they have 2 long and about 4 short, I can't get them to show up on a pic worth a damn

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http://www.grafs.com/fc/product/176717

they look likea Sierra .4515 jacketed hollow point. These are 230 grain and they have the lines you describe.

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now I am worried about using them on deer. I check all the local gunshops. see if they have any xtp, T/C or hornady and 45 or 44 bulk, I have done a little work with 45 out of mmp sabots. grrr, suck that I am low on everything but the 230gr. good thing I need to do some more range work before the season opens.

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maybe it's a Berry

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now I have another part of the damn thread, should I go on and sight in with the 230 gr (sierra ?). tuesday is the last day I can get ready for opening of ML. Or should I hunt for the xtps I been using?


How ever I go, I am going find a way to do a expansion test on the 230gr after the end of the season
I checked there site, only thing in a .452 hollow point is a 200 gr, are they all copper? some great prices too.

so I don't think it is them.

I just driving myself crazy over stupid stuff sheesh

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If I was shooting your rifle, I would get a pack of Thompson Center 240 grain Mag Express w/sabots and a pack of Hornady XTP's 300 grain with sabots. Shoot about 80 grains of your Pyrodex RS or P and get sighted in and set. The 300 grain shoot real good out of my Wolverine. So do Shockwaves actually.

All too often I used to monkey around and then at the last minute had a rifle with a load I could not trust. Even if you ordered the Sierra they might take a couple days to get to you. Although MidSouth is real good about fast shipping. Graf's can take a while. The XTP's you can buy local normally and the price is good and you do not pay shipping, and they are in your hands for testing.

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"If I was shooting your rifle, I would get a pack of Thompson Center 240 grain Mag Express w/sabots and a pack of Hornady XTP's 300 grain with sabots. Shoot about 80 grains of your Pyrodex RS or P and get sighted in and set. The 300 grain shoot real good out of my Wolverine."

Bingo!!! The XTP bullets are real good deer killers. With one possible exception, i've never used the XTP/Mag. bullets, but they get really good reports.

i would not use that 230 grain bullet on deer or hogs: Me thinks it is a .45 automatic bullet.

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I picked up some 44 cal, 240 gr xtp's today, $22 no to bad, I spent more on the package deals. I have some green mmps. I have shot 45 cal 240 gr xtp's with the mag express. got some good groups until I mess up my scope. should I pick up some mag express sabots? I know a place that is saling them in bulk locally.

how would they do?

Be the same?

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All I can tell you is they shoot well out of my Knight Rifles.

RE: help me figure this bullets out
 

corey012778

Check those TC-240's - they could be either .430 or .452 - TC sells both... what color sabot does the TC-240's have? Nevermind you said they were 45's...

The 44 cal TC mag express will be green also.

Seems that if you are shooting a Knight - that the regular green MMP sabots should work just fine...

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all I need now is a little time to set up my charges. I am planning 20 to 25 loads, 5 shots each. I also planning on starting with the 85 grs of pyrodex p (where I shot the .452 240 gr xtp's with and got a good group 100 yrds). is that a bad idea or just work it up like I did the old load.


I don't think I can get another session before opening day, unless I skip the first week. I have a 6 weeks of hunting season. of couse one of my spots is my back yard.

scout report I got from a family member:
3 bucks, 2 10 points, 1 12 points, 10 does, they eat corn, wheat, and barly.



man that breaks my heart. everyone is out of that damn bullet [:@]