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Well, the Remington and I head to the rock this morning... it is starting to feel a little like fall here.

The "Rules" prevailed this morning - i was not shooting worth a darn, do not know if it was the rules, the Moca, or the McDonalds #2 breakfast (susage, egg, & cheese McMuffin + the oily tater patty) but I certainly was not holding it together... Another problem was the sun coming up in the morning shinning in the objective lens - could have used a sun-shade...

Well, here are the results of this mornings efforts - sure not real proud of them and I think they are inconclusive... but they all would have done in the animal....

The Remington had aBushnell Elite 3200 3x9x40 mounted on it and it is a very reliable ML - I still feel that it is my best gun - but today I was just not on the mark... I really do not hink you can blame the equipment or the bullet. When i would get a good 1-2 shot I would screw up #3.

It was a little odd that most all of the Hornady's were left and the other werebasically right.

I even shot 6 Noslers - which i will not normally do and I really wanted them to print well. Just wasn't my day for paper...

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McDonalds #2 breakfast (susage, egg, & cheese McMuffin + the oily tater patty
I think the above was your first mistake of the day
I myself never and mean never eat at Mcdonalds and them tater patty repeat on me all day must be the lard they fry it in.
I been there some days you get get the timing right

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Mocca and 2x Egg MacGreasies, that's a 15 minute enema.

The 250 GD's stayed fairly tight. What range were you shooting at. Scoped?

Generally in the same area though. One nice hand size hole.

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U wooda dun better if'n ya wuzn't shootun dem grat big blue water dropz.

It aint yer best gun. ;)

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HuntAway

I forgot to add the target distance 102 yards, and I hate to say it is scoped...

I really think the .458's would have been a good group also but I messed #3 up trying to get that perfect group along with #15 of the 260 grain Noslers...and that is exactly what I was thinking when I shot #18 "do not mess this up like you did #10 or #15 I really did not even want to post this but I felt you gotta show the bad if'n your gonna show the good ones...

My only + is that any one of the shots in the vitals would have done the job...

When I put the gun up to clean it I am going to come down 1" and left 1".

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What the heck.. you got to go out, make noise, smoke, shoot a gun and eat at McDonalds.. Its great to be a kid again. Actually if that paper were venison, all them shots would have made for a very bad day with the critter.


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I was trying some of your loads yesterday...

I was shooting my stainless steel GMB in the Renegadeyesterday. I was shooting Pyrodex RS 105 grains and a 200 grain 10mm Hornady XTP with the blue MMP sabots. I could not get over how accurate that load is. I sure do thank you for telling me about them 200 grain 10mm HornadyXTP's. They are becoming one of my favorite bullets on the range. I was shooting only at 50 yards with open sights, and had a 2" sticky dot up. I hammered that thing with them little stingers. I want to boost the powder charge to 110 grains of Pyrodex RS and see what they do next.

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cayugad

It has been my experiance - that they shoot better with a stiff charge... although I guess I am some what set back that you the "Dean" of the site would shoot from a Renegade - even if it is a GM LRH.... in osme circles that would get you in trouble....

You oughta see what that little hummer does to a ground squirrel...

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how true
that's a 15 minute enema.
McDonalds #2 breakfast (susage, egg, & cheese McMuffin + the oily tater patty

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I was shooting under developed, softball size watermelon from the garden, and when you hit them with that 200 grain XTP there is not enough left of them to even bother looking. A ground squirrel would not even stand a chance.

I am calling Thompson Center tomorrow and order a set of scope mounts for the GMB. I then want to mount a 1X20mm Nikon scope on that thing. It would be legal in Wisconsin and I think that would make a nice little deer rifle. I might even throw a Nikon Pro Sport 2-7 on it as well since I have a couple around. When they went on sale, I jumped on that deal too...

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cayugad

Dave! go in the house QUICK... check your temp... are you feeling OK... 2 of your recent statements and your latest shooting adventure with Polymere in a Traditional gun really have me worried....:eek:

Statement #1

Statement #2

This is un-dave like.... You truly are multi-sided....:)

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I've reached that change in life stage... :D:D:D Probably sell one of the pickup trucks and get a sports car.

Since I would not have to shoot past 100 yards in 99% of my cases, I really like the idea of hunting with these 10mm XTPs. Also, when I was shooting the 300 grain Hornady the same day, I was using a Harvester Crushed Rib sabot. They loaded like a dream and were really accurate. I was pushing them with 110 grains of Pyrodex RS. Yet I was shooting some 250 grain Speer Gold Dots in juststandard sabots, and when I pushed them over 100 grains the accuracy wentbad, real fast.

I actually shot my rifle so many times yesterday, that if finally just would not even go off anymore. I must have shot well over 60 rounds through it. I was swabbing from time to time.I shot off over a half pound of Pyrodex RS alone, not to mention APP 2f, Triple Se7en 3f, Graf's 2f Black Powder, and Goex 3f.

So to rid the barrel of my last shot of the day, I was forced to dump some powder down the nipple hole into the bolster. It was then I noticed a lot of crud in that bolster. I even ran a nipple pick through it into the main powder charge. Then when I capped it and fired it was instant. So it is possible to fowl out a rifle even if youswab the barrel. I was using RWS dynamite noble 1075 caps too.Needless to say towards the end of the day, accuracy was slacking off and it could have been because of the fowling in the rifle.

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Yesterday when I was shooting I took out my 12 guage with the rifled slug barrel. It doesn't have a scope and I tell you I had a hard time seeing 100 yards over open sights!! I put my "Seeing" glasses on and managed to hit a 8 inch group.

Any one who shoots under 4 inches @ 100ydswith open sights is a helluva shot in my books. It's a long ways out there without glass.

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I shot a similar pattern this evening...............
but I was testing APP in my 12 ga NewEnglander :D
Wanted to see what it would do with APP using the 209 MagSpark adapter. Every shot went off quickly, but there seemed to be some variation in the felt recoil. Humidity was 100% and the APP was clumped in the measure when I threw the first charge. Had to shake it to get it loose.

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HuntAway

I here ya!

Here is the pic with the camera on 1X

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The 10mm 200 gr is a very interesting bullet, I took several game animals with it last year with 150 gr RS or APP and it was excellant, now with a different gun which I can only push to 120 and which get its best accuracy with 110 RS I wonder how it will do. Lee

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I setup a new target and i love it. I took my dad out today to sight in his muzzleloader and he takes a look at it and asks. Why only 50yards? lol it was 1-- yards, but i cut a large u-haul box in half and nailed it to my target frame and just put a 3" orange dot on it. It allows your eye to focus on the orange dot and not whats going on around the target. I cant see a white background target for sheet so i use brown cardboard boxes with either a black circle on it during bright sunny day time and then switch to a 3" orange dot during late evening when i do most of my shooting. All of the deer ive taken were at late evening to i try to practice as much as possible with dim light.

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Man, at 100 yards with any of my guns that have open sites I am happy to just hit the 16 X 16 inch target. Even with my prescription eye glasses I have a very hard time seeing the bullseye on the target. But I will tell you what, set a beer can or bottle up at 100 yards and there is a pretty good chance that I will hit it with a descent gun. When I was a kid we just never used targets, but instead shot pop cans, bottles, buckets, milk jugs etc. Some of us just need something real to rattle I guess.

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TUK101 that is I think verytrue with a lot of people. I have yet to figure it out why. I have a friend that when he shoots for groups on a standard Remington Regulation targets, he can not come close to a "good" group. Set a soda can out on a stump and he will knock that thing off all the time. Same as deer hunting, he sees a deer and it is basically a dead deer if it walks past him. Then another friend is just the opposite. He can shoot the bulls out of targets all day, but put something alive in front of him and he starts to shake so bad, its actually comical. And he takes a good kidding for it in stride as he knows he does it.

We had a game around here with friends many years ago, butrecently kind of discontinued it as the kids grew up and we all got older and more unwilling to get together as much. We called it a "fruit shoot." We used to get together with the kids, even wives andgirlfriendsand go out in the woods and set apples, oranges, any old fruit from the bait barrels or refrigerator in bushes, trees, peeking out from behind logs, and then we would shoot the fruit. The ladies loved to shoot my six shot black powder revolver at things. One new years day we shot Christmas tree ornaments.. :D We hung them on bushes and had a blast out there.

They always commented how much the kids enjoyed shooting at the fruit, but to be honest I did too. I found it a lot more fun to shoot at that, and if you missed then the next guy got a turn and he got to tease you about missing.