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Anyone shoot the Great plains 385 gr out of thier inlines and what are the results. I was thinking of tying some out of my Apex and my knights. Also has anyone tryed the 285gr 45cal. Thanks Kerry

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The 385's shoot ok out of a Disc Extreme. The 285's are awful. They measure .458 and are very tight to load out of a .451 barrel. [:@]

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285 and 385s shoot great out of my winchester x-150 .50 cal and my deer creek .45 rifle. Results are 5/8" @ 100 yards with the 385s in my winchester. Your Apex should love them. I use either 80 grains pyrodex rs or 80 grains triple 7. I like the pyrodex RS better in my inline due to all 3 shots grouping while with triple 7 my first shot is always a little high while the next 2 are lower and are the groupers.
In my .45 the 285s were around a 1 1/2" group. I never played with them much due to the rifle loving the 225 grain powerbelts.

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The 410 gr. flat point shot great out of my cva last season. I haven't tried them out of my Knight yet. It's just been waaaay to hot to even think of going to the range lately.

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What do you mean by this? Does that mean that you routinely shoot 5/8" groups or you did it once?

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5/8" groups has been the worse group i can shoot out of the x-150 with my 80 grains RS and a 385 GP conical. 5/8" is what i have been getting ever since i found this load. 1/2" was the best but that only happened once. I get disapointed if i dont shoot atleast a 5/8 or 7/8" group out of the x-150. I can easily expect and see a 1" group with a 295 powerbelt a 120grains loose RS. Lots of time invested finding these loads. Now its time to go shoot the .45 and dial in my final load that i will use.:D

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And that is without a scope right?

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correct. With a scope you could pretty much get them into the same hole if you did your part and the wind was on your side.

Truglow ghost ring sights were a huge help too.

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Sorry, I ain't believin.

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:D:D i expected that from your sorry.... Dont hate the player, hate the game;)

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I shoot 5/8" all the time and from all distances, with or without a scope. We are talking, per hole, right?

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I never said that. 5/8" is a 3 shot group fired @ 100 yards. Shorter distances group even better. Now with scope, thats a whole new ball game. I measure from the farest bullet hole.

cascade, you just having something against me and my winchester. I know you shoot a white and so do a few others on here, and ive seen better target pics than what i normally put up. Then we have outdoorslover saying he shoots 3/4" groups @ 100 yards. Do you believe that? Do i believe that? Anything is possible when you take your time and work up the proper load. As for me, Im going out now to sight in my .45 sidelock. This shoots 2" groups @ 150 yards BTW. Ive also done work to the stock to get these groups, so , shes " Custom" built ;)

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FG

OK.... I am all ears explain to me your 5/8"@ 100 - I really do not understand...

Here you do not use the word group

Here you do use the word "groups"

And here you say "3 shot grouping"

Since you are shooting a conical from your X-150 - i assume that one shot is going to make a 4/8" hole - that leaves 1/8th for the next two

In this one you do not say range but I really do not care what the range is one shot is 1/2" so all the rest of the shots have to be through the same hole???

This is your reply to Branson and to me that says 5/8" Group @ 100 with a conical. Are you saying 5/8 inches from one hole to the next???

It does make people wonder.... or is my math off - I have already been wrong twice today might as well go for three

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I don't have anything against you or your Winchester. I just don't believe you shoot 5/8" groups consistently. Maybe you do, but I would have to see it to believe it. Didn't you just post a week or two ago that you needed glasses very bad? If your glasses aren't perfect, there ain'tno way you are goingto shoot a 1"group. Even if you were shooting with a scope, I would still have a tough time believing it.

I don't know who you are talking about posting targets better than yours. I certainly have never shot a 1" group without a scope and haven't seen too many targets on here that are close to a 5/8" group. I don't think I have heard of anybody on here claiming those kind of groups consistently.

And I don't remember Outdoorslover claiming a 3/4" group. At one time, he was calling BS on people claiming 2" groups or something like that.

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When the weather gets in the 90's thats when it starts to suffer and will open up a little over an inch. Does amazing when the weather goes under freezing but thats to hard to shoot. frozen hands and fingers. As for glasses, i'll be needing them again soon. The targets get blurry once the light starts to go down but on the other hand, that may be a good thing for hunting.

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All the talk of 5/8" groups, I was going to answer this, maybe I will
sometime.
Redclub

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look up the reviews from actual buyers of the winchester apex. most are getting 1" groups right out of the box with a conical. a few ive seen reporting 3/4" groups with open sights. It is possible to shoot great with open sights with a winchester. You dont need a knight, white or any other brand to get excellent groups with a conical.

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I am new here, and just now going back to ML hunting for the first time in years since a back injury last year put a permenantend to my bow hunting. I tried the 385's in my CVA inline and they were all over the place, only went up to 80 grains of powder since CVA doesnt recommend bulluts over 300 grains in there rifles, I didnt want to push my luck.

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300 grains is for a sabot. 400 grain is the "limit" for conicals.

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Thanks for the heads up, I went and found the manuel, and you are right. Time to go burn more powder.