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Gruntr Huntr 04-25-2007 02:01 AM

Cabela's cap & ball
 
Does someone here own one of the Cabela's cap & ball revolvers? I'm interested in getting one of their 1851 Navy pistols, but I'd like to know who manufactures their blackpowder pistols.

Thanks

cayugad 04-25-2007 11:35 AM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 
I own one, the 1858 New Army Remington target model in .44 caliber. They are a good shooting revolver. I have no complaints about mine or the way it shoots. It will hold its own at 25 yards with any revolver you want to shoot with. Granted there are better revolvers out there for more money, but if your like me and shoot it once in a while when the mood hits me, or when I go rabbit hunting, it is all the revolver I need. They are made by Fllipetta of Italy.

The reason I went with the Army model is the top steel strap. I also avoid any brass in the framer other then say the trigger guard. I had a navy model many years ago (actually I don't think I was old enough to even have it back then). I had it loaded up shooting cans off a fence and it chain fired on me and stretched the frame. When I took it to a gun smith to have him look at it, he explained while the Navy models are good shooters, they are prone to twisting in the frame more so then the Army models. So now I have an army model. He fixed that old one and I sold it to a fellow that wanted to hang it on the wall in his den. Sounded like a good place for it.

They really are fun revolvers, a pain to clean although there are ways to do it faster. And are accurate. I would not deer hunt with them, but for small game and targets they are a good way to spend the afternoon. My Army shoots 25-30 gr of Goex 3f and a .451 roundball.

Rebel Hog 04-25-2007 11:47 AM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 
Follow Cayugads advice! Go with the Rem NA 1858. The small white box in the botton left is a spare cylinder. The loading stand is one I modified.







frontier gander 04-25-2007 12:03 PM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 
its not the 1851 confederate navy .44 is it? All brass frame? If thats the pistol, do not buy it. I had cabelas send me 4 of them before i got my money back. First one kept jamming, second one always jammed and then the barrel blew off because of a broken pin that held the cylinder shaft on came out, 3ed and 4th wouldnt cock at all, right out of the box. Shy away from the brass frames revolvers. Spend a little extra and buy a steel frame.

Rebel Hog 04-25-2007 12:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: frontier gander

Spend a little extra and buy a steel frame.
Yeah!:DA Ruger!:D:D:D:D

early 04-25-2007 12:28 PM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 

ORIGINAL: Gruntr Huntr

Does someone here own one of the Cabela's cap & ball revolvers? I'm interested in getting one of their 1851 Navy pistols, but I'd like to know who manufactures their blackpowder pistols.

Thanks
I have a Pietta made reproduction of a 1858 new army Remington that I purchased from Cabelas. It is a quality product, and I am very happy with it. The Remington models make cleaning, and loading easy because of the simplicity of cylinder removal, and the full frame adds strength.

early

Gruntr Huntr 04-25-2007 02:25 PM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 
Hey, Rebel Hog, that's a good looking pistol but I'm most interested in your loading stand. Can I steal some ideas from it?

Thanks for everyone's input.

outdoorslover 04-25-2007 09:03 PM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 
I am starting to get interested in the same pistols myself. From what I have seen of them, they look like great guns. I haven't shot one yet so all I can give you is my somewhat untested evaluation.

I would spend the extra on the steel. It seems much tougher and less liable to fail. I don't think guns should have ever been made out of brass.

I should try and get me one of those! I also want a traditional muzzleloader.

Gruntr Huntr 04-25-2007 11:13 PM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 

ORIGINAL: outdoorslover

I am starting to get interested in the same pistols myself. From what I have seen of them, they look like great guns.

I should try and get me one of those! I also want a traditional muzzleloader.
I do some Cowboy Action Shooting with the 1875 Remingtons, these are cartridge revolvers,butI recentlyhad the opportunity to shoot a pair of the Colt 1860 Army repro's, which they also use in CAS shooting, and it's given me the bug to try my hand at a pair of the Navys to see if I might like to shoot matches with them.

As for getting into traditional muzzleloading, all I can say about that is that it's worth every extra effort!!! I'vehunted withtraditional muzzleloaders for years and it's the most rewarding hunting there is to me because its not about trophies or numbers, its about HOW you harvest the game regardless of its size. It makes a doe as exciting as a buck, or, a pheasant as exciting as 3 pheasants!

I recommend you try it and see what I'm talking about.

Rebel Hog 04-26-2007 05:05 AM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 

ORIGINAL: Gruntr Huntr

Hey, Rebel Hog, that's a good looking pistol but I'm most interested in your loading stand. Can I steal some ideas from it?

Thanks for everyone's input.
You can order the Basic Stand from Dixie Gun Works for$15 and modify it your selfor you can make your own from scratch.

What I have done isTacked & Glued a piece of wood infront of the notch, added a thickier piece of felt and a brass Cabinet Catch to the back of the Hinged board.





Or You Can Purchase The Cylinder LoadingTool



Gruntr Huntr 04-26-2007 06:03 AM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 

ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog

What I have done isTacked & Glued a piece of wood infront of the notch, added a thickier piece of felt and a brass Cabinet Catch to the back of the Hinged board.

I noticed those add-ons and I like them. I'm going to try to do the same.
Thanks

outdoorslover 04-26-2007 02:53 PM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 

ORIGINAL: Gruntr Huntr


ORIGINAL: outdoorslover


I do some Cowboy Action Shooting with the 1875 Remingtons, these are cartridge revolvers,butI recentlyhad the opportunity to shoot a pair of the Colt 1860 Army repro's, which they also use in CAS shooting, and it's given me the bug to try my hand at a pair of the Navys to see if I might like to shoot matches with them.

As for getting into traditional muzzleloading, all I can say about that is that it's worth every extra effort!!! I'vehunted withtraditional muzzleloaders for years and it's the most rewarding hunting there is to me because its not about trophies or numbers, its about HOW you harvest the game regardless of its size. It makes a doe as exciting as a buck, or, a pheasant as exciting as 3 pheasants!

I recommend you try it and see what I'm talking about.

I have shot a few traditionals and loved every moment of it. The only problem is the price of those things. I can't afford crap until I pay for mytruck:(.

I may be able to get a reasonably priced pistol but it's doubtful.

I agree 110% with the comment about how you harvest the game. I am one of the few in my area who still bowhunts and muzzleloads instead of pulling out the rifles and shotguns. I am as proud as I can be of anything I harvest.;)

outdoorslover 04-26-2007 02:55 PM

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Rebel Hog, that is one sweet looking gun--and stand. I always wanted something like that to put in my room lol.

AmericanPioneer 04-29-2007 11:50 PM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 
I have the 1851 navy confederate flag model in .36 caliber from cabelas and its timing and trigger pull and all are excellent. I couldnt find any flaws anywhere. Havent shot it yet. I bought some wads for it instead of grease for sealing the cylinders. I hope it shoots as good as it looks. The frame is of brass but I think the .36 loads wont be as hard on it as the .44 loads would.The pic on the cabelas web site shows the pistols having fluted cylinders but mine is solid with the rolled on naval scene. Maybe the 1858 in .36 cal. for the same price would have been better. I have an all steel 1860 Army hartford model in .44 from EMF that has served me well so I needed a .36 to play around with.

Gruntr Huntr 05-01-2007 02:14 PM

RE: Cabela's cap & ball
 
The 44 caliber in these Army & Navy revolvers is nothing compared to cartridge 44 caliber. I've been shooting a brass framed Army for a couple years and can't tell that there is any loss of integrity to the framework. I did do an action job on it to smooth it out and that was really worth the effort.

I think its important to note that these new revolvers seem to be of very good quality when compared to some of the earlier products, and, I'm sure, like everything else, the cheap ones are cheap for a reason.

dr4pat 03-31-2010 08:55 AM

Triple p loader?
 
Rebel Hog

Do you know where I can find a Triple - P Loader to buy?
Thanks dr4pat


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