Shooting the New (used) E-bay Replacement Barrel
 

Well, the weather finally broke today and I was able to get out shoot the new barrel I got on Monday.

This barrel is really old, it is a "K" barrel (K3380), and it is a Douglas, but itdoes not even have "Renegade" stamped on it. As you can see the breech plug even has a clean-out screw and is not contoured as the normal TC breech plug is. It is one of those that can removed with a TC breech plug wrench if you wanted to.

The bore did look good, not "unfired" as the seller thought, but I cleaned it all up and installed it in the stock - then waited for the weather - today was the day I would shoot it. I did bore sight it before I left for the rock pit because I did not want to take the time to sight it in - just wanted to shoot it.

Well here are the results. There are 12 shots in there all told. So the barrel is probably a shooter, and with fiber optic sights I am sure I could tighten it up quite a bit.

But when it is all said and done it really is not any better than the first factory barrel that I got off e-bay. So now this barrel will be relegated to become a project barrel. At some point I strip it and I will re-blue the whole thing. Possibly install new fiber optic sights, or even sale it - - just not sure and there is no rush...

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I would try some LMF browing chemical,slow rust brown and some say if you go with the instruction when the brown color is were you want in just drop into some boiled distill hot water and it will turn dark blue.
Keep me in mind if you want to part that rear sight on th renegade,I am looking for a square rear notch sight that were on the older renegades

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Looks like the barrel off my first kit Renegade. It also is a good shooter. Nice shooting though for the first time out.

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If I did that well with open sights - someone would have to revive me.

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That's impressive Mike! ....but then, I'm easily impressed .......

So you've determined it is a 1:48? By looking down the bore? When were the first modern muzzleloaders equipped with that twist? Or, by really old, do you mean like 15 years....... [:o]

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yeoman

I have know wayofknowing the dates or the years for sure... what i have pieced together is: Sharp Shooter has a Renegade I though he estimated to be 30 years old (his grandfathers I think), but it is a 28 inch barrel and a 1/66 or 60 twist - and again without Renegade stamped on the barrel. I BELIEVE but I do not know all short(27") Renegade barrels will be the 1/48 twist. And I guess I am estimating 15/20 years old. Cayugad or lonewolf might be able to pen it down a little closer. I was a little worried that this barrel might be a 1/66 twist when I bought it... I asked the seller but he was not a real help - he did not know either.

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lonewolf5348

I know I have at least one set if not two in the toolbox, besides the set on this new barrel, might even have one set on the 54 barrel... if you are interested maybe we could make a swap... I need a TC fiber optic rear sight.

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I thought the K in the serial number of T/C barrels ment they were kit rifles/barrels? My Hawkins is a k barrel and it was a kit gun.
:)Al

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yooper

Your assumption "K" equals kit is correct... although in the later years kit barrels were not stamped with the "K"

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What! His grandfather's! Man I'm gettin' old. T/C made the first Renegade in 1974. I have no idea when twist rates started speeding up.

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My kit rifle was bought in 1980. I was told it was a Douglas Barrel by Thompson Center. The serial number is a K**** series. It states it is a Thompson Center Barrel in .54 caliber but no where does it mention the word Renegade on it.

I never knew that the old Renegades were a 1-66 twist. I thought they were called something other then a Renegade at that time. These old barrels are great shooters, but they like to lead up so you have to watch them.

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4 digits serial # mid- to early 70's most were 1 in 48,few and far 1 in 66
1 in 66 would say first year run most were sharon barrels,on the sharon barrel look for a heart ot t/c call it a spade on the underside near the barrel end by the breech=plug.
IJUST GAVE AWAY a fiber optic rear sight ,seem nothing to trade on hand right now
I heardalso if you are lucky to purchase a t/c without a name (MODEL)on like HAWKENS OR RENEGADE some say there were not made by t/c,all my flinter barrel's have no name stamped in them except for thompson center rochester N.H. and all will drive tacks with patch round balls

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lonewolf5348


That is howthis barrel is stamped... but it does have that "W" or "M" stamped on the underside... I thought that indicated Douglas???

It does shoot really well - i would not hesitate a bit hunting with it....

check your pm..

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yep: it a douglas barrel
spade or heart- sharon
thompson center barrels have there model on it,HAWKENS,RENEGADE AND SO ON
You got one good barrel there,you did well on that deal
The other barrel even with deep pitts will replace the $ in what you paid for the one you just bought off of e bay.
I just sold 2 different barrels and did state there were pitted but shot well on different forms in the ball park of $65.00 bucks,I only wanted the stocks