Does anyone hate inline muzzleloaders ?
 

I have been in several crossbow debates lately and wanted to know how muzzleload hunters who use the older cap guns, ball and patch or even flintlocks feel that inlines shouldn't be allowed in muzzleloader/primitive gun seasons ? I'm not starting a fight in any way, but I see arguments against crossbows based on how much easier they are and all the differences and I see similarties in comparing an old flintlock to a Knight with a synthetic stock, sabots and bullets and Pyrodex pellets fired with shotgun primers, topped with a 3x9 scope and accurate out to 250 yards.

Thoughts ?
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&quot;not starting a fight in any way&quot;!!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Yes, I own 5 and am beginning to hate all but one of them. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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They are all fun to shoot for different reasons. I don't think inlines take anything away from the sport. Because of inlines, and guys like Tony Knight, there are more BP shooters than ever.

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The comparison I was trying to make was that like a crossbow compared to a compound compared to recurves/longbows, so are there huge differences between old type muzzleloaders and the new ones. Not only a lot more technololgy and gadgets, but the range and power are significantly more.

I was wondering if any traditional muzzleload hunters felt encroached upon like some bowhunters do. So far not - about what I figured and a good thing I believe. Like 1950KID said, more hunters and a long as the deer populations stay healthy that can't ever be a bad thing.
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The thing with muzzleloaders of any type is that they all still need to be loaded by the barrel, capped, cocked, and fired. They are all pretty much equal in how they have to operate. Now, the thing with crossbows and compounds or stick bows is that the crossbow can be draws, cocked and loaded before you even enter the woods. Not so with the other bows. With that said, If you want to use a crossbow or in-line or whatever then go for it as long as it's legal to do so. I believe there are side locks that are magnum capable with 1 in 28&quot; twist or so that will fire a bullet just as fast as any in-line. In short, use what you want and lets go hunting.

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Coondog#1 - Agreed, but like Colorado 2 years ago, inlines were not legal and they changed the laws, like many states are now changing crossbow laws.

bigbulls - True, but if its all about drawing the bow, as I have argued before, then surly drawing a compound with 85% letoff with a mechnical release is just a huge a differnce when comparing to drawing full weight and releasing with fingers like a recurve/longbow shooter does ? Inline muzzleloaders are totally different critters than a flintlock, are they not ? I've never shot a flintlock, but I suspect that one of those with iron sights are a lot more difficult to shoot than say a TC Encore topped with a Swarovzki 3x12, 150 of pellets and a saboted bullet ? And thats my question - why are muzzleloaders not upset over something that different but legal in &quot;their&quot; season and archery hunters are ?
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Inlines should be allowed in muzzleloader seasons, but NOT in primitive weapons seasons! In fact, perhaps a true primitive weapons season should be limited to bows, spears, flintlocks and matchlocks. I don't hate inlines, but having used them quite a bit, as well as caplocks and flintlocks, I see no real advantage to the in;line, except that the breechplug can be removes so one can clean from the breech end. I have scopes on a couple of caplock Hawken-style rifles, both of which have barrels made from modern chrome-moly barrel stell, and which can be used with powder charges as heavy as any of the so-called &quot;magnum&quot; inlines. One, a .50 cal. slow-twist, will shoot 370-grain Maxi-balls into 2&quot; @ 100 yards using 140 grains of Curtis & Harvey Musket powder. I have a 4X Lyman All-American scope on this rifle, and it is as deadly as any rifle of any sort out to 125 yards!!

Keep yore powder dry!!

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Not to be argumentative <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>, but if an inline offers no real advantage - why should it be disallowed? And I agree with you, some sidelocks will shoot every bit as well or better than the best of the inlines. The argument is basicially about an ARC.