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Pglasgow 01-29-2007 06:39 PM

50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
Cabin fever is killing me. I just received a jar of JB Bore paste from Brownell's and decided to give the Kodiak Pro a treatement. I did 10 strokes per each patch and repeated this 10 times. One think I noticed was that the patches were a dark grey by the second stroke, like it takes a very fine amount of metal with each stroke. Is this right?

The bore is very shiny and smooth and I can't wait to take her to the range. Is this pretty much the treatment one should do on a bore which is new?



Sharp Shooter 01-29-2007 07:08 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
What one of these did you use? I think I am going to try it with both of my muzzleloaders.

Pglasgow 01-29-2007 07:13 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 

ORIGINAL: Sharp Shooter

What one of these did you use? I think I am going to try it with both of my muzzleloaders.
I got the J-BNon-embedding BoreCleaning Compound. It comes in a 2 oz white container and sells for $9.00 at http://Brownells.com. It was around $14with shipping.

lemoyne 01-29-2007 07:58 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
Pglasgow, That is a very fine grinding compoud, good if you need to lapp: I use it when needed but I use Jewlers
Rouge which polishes rather than cutting . They both remove some metal the differance is the Jewlers Rouge re moves less and leaves a very slick finish which I believe makes for easy loading and cleaning with Muzzle Loaders. Lee


Pglasgow 01-29-2007 08:23 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 

ORIGINAL: lemoyne

Pglasgow, That is a very fine grinding compoud, good if you need to lapp: I use it when needed but I use Jewlers
Rouge which polishes rather than cutting . They both remove some metal the differance is the Jewlers Rouge re moves less and leaves a very slick finish which I believe makes for easy loading and cleaning with Muzzle Loaders. Lee
Where does a guy get jewelers rouge? As I recollect, rouge is a red block of fine pumice or similar material? So if I use it do I use a bore mop to polish with it. How should the rouge be used?

Underclocked 01-29-2007 08:49 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
Phil, the JB will turn black with friction (and it will also make brass/bronze bristles turn black). I don't know what your goal was - whether just a good cleaning or you were attempting to lap rough spots from the new barrel - but you succeeded in giving the bore a good cleaning. To try to lap out rough spots would require many more strokes made fast, long, and smoothly. 200 such stokes would probably gain you something in that regard but I would go no further than you already have with a new barrel - the thing may shoot great now.

bigcountry 01-29-2007 08:56 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
You know to get any sort of lapping with JB's takes like 300 strokes. Its very fine. And turning black, you can do that with your fingers rubbing together with a blob in your hand. Not really metal coming out.

Pglasgow 01-29-2007 09:10 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 

ORIGINAL: Underclocked

Phil, the JB will turn black with friction (and it will also make brass/bronze bristles turn black). I don't know what your goal was - whether just a good cleaning or you were attempting to lap rough spots from the new barrel - but you succeeded in giving the bore a good cleaning. To try to lap out rough spots would require many more strokes made fast, long, and smoothly. 200 such stokes would probably gain you something in that regard but I would go no further than you already have with a new barrel - the thing may shoot great now.
I was just trying to get a good polish on the bore, i guess. Really, I don't know what I am doing at all on this but I've read some positive comments on doing this in the beginning to speed up breaking in the bore. After your comments I decided to run a cotton ball through the bore. There was only one snag about a 1/3 the way down from the muzzle which seems pretty good to me.

I did stroke the compound pretty much in a steady in motion all the way down, then all the way out each time. I might have done it more slowly than I should have, I used a T-handle with the ramrod.The boreseems pretty smooth and I'm looking forward to checking to see if some ballets take out that snag. We just are notthawed out completely and the range is still closed. Thanks for the input. If the ballets don't take that last burr out, should I go after that last spot as you described? How many conicals should I shoot before considering additional treatment?

Thanks

HEAD0001 01-29-2007 10:04 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
I always though 500 strokes was recommended? Be careful around the muzzle. I thought removing some metal was the reason for lapping, along with polishing. I know the ones I have done appear very bright when a bore light is used. Go to their web site for good instructions. Tom.

liquidorange 01-30-2007 04:47 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
i thought the jb bore paste was made from material that wont embed into the metal. i wonder about the jewlers rouge. they sell that paste in the dremel section of the super hardware stores.

oldwun 01-30-2007 05:04 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
I have used the JB for years. Yes it will turn black at the blink of a hat. After u make a 100 or so strokes run a cotton ball thru the bore. If you see any cotton snagged in the bore try another 100 strokes and try the cotton again. From then on use 50 strokes and continue until u do not have any cotton hanging in thr bore. it will slick it up!! I have a 220 swift heavy barrel varmit rifle that picked up 180 fps after I polished the bore.

Pglasgow 01-31-2007 04:49 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
Well I couldn't stand it. That little snag 1/3 the way down the Kodiak's bore. . . I did 60 more strokes. It's absolutely gone now. Several tries with the cotton ball comes out snag free. All shiny and smooth now, Awesome:D. I want to go shooting! Got so many things I want to try . . .

Pglasgow 01-31-2007 08:57 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
I've shot 51 rounds through my Apex. 34 Ballets and 17 375 SSB. I decided to the do the cotton ball test tonight. I had no snags or catches. I figured there would be no benefit to using the Bore Paste on it. Is that right? Could I expect better performance or not risk its current performance by treating the bore? Or is it better to leave her just as she is?

Underclocked 01-31-2007 10:29 PM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
I would leave that one alone for now. If she's shootin fine, then I would leave it untilshe isn't.

oldwun 02-01-2007 08:11 AM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
If I didn't have any cotton hangingI would leave it alone!! The idea is to make the bore as smooth as possible. that will maximize your barrel's performance.

lemoyne 02-01-2007 08:33 AM

RE: 50 strokes of JB Bore Paste
 
Pglasgow, Any place that sells compounds for polishing wheels [the cloth ones should have it].
Your local tool and hardware might have it.
http://www.houseoftools.com/subgrouping.htm?cat=1719&orderfield=&sort=
If not try here. Lee



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