Sabots.... who's are they?
 

Does anyone here know how many ML sabot manufacturers there are and who they are? I have some black sabots that came with some cheap 310 gr. Knight all lead HP's, but if I want to get more of them I don't know how I would. I doubt Knight makes them or the leads. Is there a "master" sabot chart available which gives color, dimensions, # petals, description of cup shape, bullet diameter etc... If not, would't that be useful?

Sabotloader, you don't wear that name for nothing. What's out there?

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Just returned from the MMP site and it's very good. A site like theirs with all sabot makers would be great.

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yeoman

Knight did and I think still does make sabots (some sabots). Usually Knight sabot had a smooth cup and a wide space between petals. Harvesters and MMP usually have a very tight space petal to petal.

I honestly do not knowhow many companies make sabots....

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Sabotloader,

I doubt Knight actually makes many of the things it sells. I suspect most of what wears the name is made by someone else. I would not be surprised if MMP made the sabots Knight sells. I don't know. Knight, A Division of Modern Muzzleloader Industries, is a subsidiary of ENSCO industries. Who knows what is made by whom? I don't much care unless, as in this case, I'd like to find the sabots w/o the bullets!

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Yeoman, I don't if this is what you're asking, color code tells you for what caliber and bullet size. Scroll down to color code.


Sabots Muzzleload Magnum Products Blackpowder-sabots blackpowder ...

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yeoman

I know Knight use to make their own sabots, in fact one time talking to Del he indicated that he bought Knights, .458 sabot dyes and equipment.

At onetime I believe Knight supplied Hornady with their sabots also.

They, the different companies, are a little closer to providing a uniform color for a certain caliber but you still can not always be sure and then there is MMP that makes 3 different 50 cal black sabots for .451/452 bullets.

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MMP makes Knights. The other company is Harvester. I think Hornady makes some also but I am not sure on this.

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Wolfhound76
I agree today, but in the past Knightmade sabots. As i saidearlier Del once told me that he bought his .458 machine from Knight. I do have some old Knight sabots and they are certainly different than either Harvester or MMP, but the possibility exsits that they were Hornady - but i actually did not know that Hornady actually made their own.

I thought PR bullet was using another totally different manufacturer to make their boat tail sabots....

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Del told me last year that the green hornaday sabots were the same as the MMP greenm sabots for the 50 call as MMP makes them.
There is a post on Modern Muzzle loading about it.

:) Al

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From the combination of above posts, I would guess MMP makes them for MMP, Knight and Hornady, at present, and Harvester makes their own.

Getting them from one of those sources should simplify life.... for now

Thanks.