scope for a sidelock?
 

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a scope that looks right on a sidelock? I know that scopes weren't usually on them in the old days, but I remember seeing a pic of a hawken with a long brass scope on it. Or was that just a peep sight?
I just ordered my first Muzzleloader. A Lyman Trade Rifle from www.dnrsports.com
Thanks Cayugad for that link in another thread.
I like to shoot with iron sights, but my eyes aren't what they used to be and I need all the help I can get.

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

I dont remember which site it was on but one of the sites that has parts for building muzzle loading rifles has a copy of the old long brass scope for sale. Lee

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

http://www.leatherwoodoptics.com/home-malcolm.html try that one..

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

Whew. 419 bucks. Guess I'll be shooting with iron sights! Ha!
Ever see one with a tang sight ?

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

When you said tang sight did you mean a peep sight?





My eyes are 60 years old so I stopped shooting the hawkins as I just could not get the sights and target to focus together. I bought a used Winchester Modle 94 with a lyman peep sight on it. Lo and beholdI could shoot it and the sights just seemed to line up naturaly and in focus.
Longbow bowhunter on this site sent me this T/C peep for my Hawkins and I love it.

This is the groups I got with it useing cross sticks at 50 yards.


:) Al

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

That's right on the money, Al. When I was growing up my grandpa in Idaho had an original Winchester 1873 model with a peep sight. he called it a tang sight , I guess because it mounted on the tang. I reckon that's why I still call 'em tang sights.
I'll check the Lyman site and maybe get one for my new Trade Rifle.
I appreciate the input.

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

I remember the sight he had would flip up from the tang of the rifle.

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

If your shooting a Hawkins, is there really a need for a Verner Tang Peep Sight? I see them more in line for a 45/70 breech loader type rifle. Would a simple Lyman 57 SMT peep with removable aperture work as well? That is if it would work.

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

It would seem so. I'm probably going to wait and see how I'm able to shoot with thefactory sights before I do anything else. But the sight Al has on his Hawken looks good with the rifle.

Went to the Lyman site and looked at the 57 SMET. May work on the Trade rifle, we'll see.

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

I don't know if Lyman still makes and sells the old number 2 peep sight. It is what is on my Winny 94, it folds down and has a small lever to lock it in the up postiton.
Also I am sure the T/C can be mounted on the tang of your trade rifle.
I will also check to see if Marble still makes their peep sight.

:) Al

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

Yes Marble still has a peep sight. they call it a tang peep sight.


They are in Michigans Upper on the shores of Little Bay De Noc, have been since the mid 1800's.

Check out their web site and look at the tang peep sight.
http://www.marblearms.com/index1.html

You might also want to look at what Williams has to offer.
http://www.williamsgunsight.com/





1340
FP-Hawken
For pre-1991 Thompson/Center Hawken and Renegade M/L rifles. This sight fitted with sub-block. It is necessary to drill and tap one hole on models that factory discontinued drilling.

:) Al

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

This thing looks like ALOT of fun!!! Look at all those windage and elevation adjustments.....could keep a guy busy for a lifetime. I wish you guys wouldn't post stuff like this so much. I think it plays into the conspiracy thread from a few days back.

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

Best thing on the market for us guys with old eyeswho don't want to make it even :D harder to clean the Hawkins by scopeing it.
And yes I did read a post about how hard a Hawkins is to clean.

:)Al

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

The Ghost Peep works good both for old eyes and picking up the target fast. Lee

RE: scope for a sidelock?
 

Thanks all. I was looking at my "midsouth shooters supply" catalog and they have a TC sight in there that looks like it may be the ticket.


Although that Marbles sight keeps coming up in my mind. That would be a fun sight to play with.