outdoorslover

Yes, it had a black barrel and black synthetic stock.

lemoyne

txhunter58, You might try 20 gr volium measure corn meal and an over the powder wad my Omega will shoot Maxie balls and Ballets in 2.5 inches with that combo and several others into 3 or a bit more. Lee

outdoorslover

I am sorry if this does sound like an ad guys. I just wanted to let you know what I think quality is.

Pittsburghunter

Just yanking your chain. I would have just bought it in the first place myself. I still don't think you gave the other rifle a fair chance.

BUT, the Omega is a bettter rifle.

txhunter58

Thanks lemoyne. I plan on trying that as well in my next outing. Read cayugad's report on that very thing and figured it was worth a shot as well..

txfireman

Don't put any stock into Frontier Gander, it is very evident that he is in every way Anti-Thompson Center and there have been numerous posts on here displaying his views to that. I have an Encore that I love and when you find the load that drives tacks, it's almost as good as killing the big one. Sounds like you have that success. Congrats on getting a great ML. Any ML that a person is comfortable with as far as price, weight, shooting, etc was the one that was intended for that person. I'm sure the Apex is a good gun, not gona slam it cause I've never had one in my hands. Just did some research and all fingers pointed to Thompson Center when I was in the market.

Pglasgow

I sure hope it does. Good luck with that.

outdoorslover,dang I was hoping that your Apex was shipped back to Cabelas. Maybe you could give frontier gander the location you took it back to. Congratulations on your new rifle, sounds like its going to give you lots of years of great service.

Pglasgow

Hey give him a break. I don't think anyone paid much attention to his assessment of the omega and encore. Frontier Gander has been collecting muzzleloaders since a teenager. He's takes pride in his CVA's, traditions, and Winchesters. And why shouldn't he be proud of them? He has worked hard to earn the money which purchased them and they have served him well. One thing I think we all miss here is that people who buy something other than T/C don't want to be relegated to being a second class citizen for having done so. A little more tolerance on everyone's part, (including frontier gander's), is in order.

frontier gander

I noticed something you said that outdoors was unwilling to do " when you find that load". I wanted to buy the apex off him, i missed out on the cabelas deal and this was my last resort. When you offer the person more than what they pay and they turn it out, kinda makes u wonder if they had the thing. And after 60 rounds, wouldnt you be looking for new bullets? And thank you Phil, those were kind and very true words, i did work my butt off when i was younger to buy all my muzzleloaders, and why should i keep quiet when someone is talking/spreading false rumors about my choice of rifle? I know these TC guys start crying when they read one bad thing. I owned a TC so im not anti TC. I just choose to go with an inline that i can actually use and depend on when it comes to shooting conicals. But the bottom line here is, i simply wanted to buy the apex off the guy. Its my own personal choice of rifle i use so of course im going to put my 2 cents in when i come across a post. I also drive buicks, who wants to take a shot at me for driving one?
The one thing im wondering about his new omega is: Is the drop breech sealed 100% like the apex? Ive read on other posts that they are not and people are switched to the .25 conversion.

Pglasgow

I don't think you should keep quiet. I think its good to describe your experience and satisfaction. But you shouldn't trash their choice for this reason, you don't like it when they trash yours. But just for the record, I respect your choices and how hard you worked to pay for them.