Just Rouged My Encore Bore
 

Worked over the bore of my Encore with jeweler's rouge today. The gun is hard to load and the bore looked rough. There were dark streaks on the lands and grooves. Gave it a good work over with red jeweler's rouge. The bore is now very shiny and smooth looking. Will take it outthis week and see if it loads any easier.

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alsaqr

What combination are you loading into your Encore? Just curious...

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I was wondering the same thing. Have your tried some of the easy glide sabots?

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"What combination are you loading into your Encore? Just curious... "

i am currently hunting with 90 grains of Jim Shockey's Goldand a 250 grain SST sabot load. Primer is Winchester M/L. The gun shoots the 240 grain XTP to the same point of aim with that powder load. This is a very accurate load. Have killed two deer and a hog with it. One of the deer was at 160 yards.

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"I was wondering the same thing. Have your tried some of the easy glide sabots?"

Have not tried them yetsincethey are not available locally. Plan toorder some soon. They sound really good.
That gun loads hard allthe way down the bore. There are no easy spots like some guns.

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Well maybe your working over the bore like you did, will make all the difference in the world. Good luck with your rifle.

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alsaqr,if your bore is exactly .500 like a lot of TC bores it will load awful tight with the SST sabot the Shock Waves have the same bullet and a better fitting sabot and the MMP- HPH 24 will load like a dream and shoot as good as any. The bore sizes do very some so if you can not measure it accurately and do not live close to one of use who can you might want to try a few of each. If you just need 3 to check the fit PM me with your address and I will mail you a few. Lee

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alsaqr

Lee is right on point... SST's come with HPH-12 sabots which are the thicker variety... If you want to shoot SST's you will need to change to HPH-12 sabots or regular Harvesters.... You can purchase the HPH-24's off the shelf if you purchase TC Mag Express Sabots. You can not purchase the Superglide sabot which is made by MMP, because it is under contract to TC, but you can purchse from MMP the new HPH-3p-ez which will load as easy as the superglides or the other alternative is the Havester "crush rib"

The TC shockwaves come with the HPH-24 sabot....

It is always nice to have a clean and shiny bore - so the elbow grease you applied will accomplish that anyway... + now I'll bet the 24's fit perfect...

As Lee saidfor the EZ sabots if you need a few to try send a PM...

mike

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The crush rib and the new super glide are to loose in both of my TC inlines they wont shoot good and I would be afraid to try to carry them aroud hunting for fear they would not stay down on the powder.
I mentioned this to make any new comers to the sport aware that anything that loads too easy could be dangerous if it moves off the powder it can act as a barrel obstruction. Lee

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you guys that are having fit problems with your omegas have you tried the 300 grain 44 caliber hornady xtp-s with the green hornady sabots instead of the 45 caliber bullets with the black SABOTS? im wondering if the 44-s load easier in general?

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liquidorange

The problem! - I think for the most part is the fact there is no standard for a bore. The/A company, even a company like TC will have variances in their bores,can cut the bore anywhere in the vicinity of the advertised diameter... even when the tooloing gets olds and dull and does not provide uniform barrels it is Ok because there is no standard... Therefor sabot manufactures need to amke a variety of different thicknesses of sabot to fit the barrel. 45 cal being the more popular bullet to be used then several different thicknesses of sabots have been developed for them.

In most instances, but certainly not all, the 44 sabots come in one universal thickness developed by each sabot company and can be a bear to get down in tight bores also.

Using TC sabots, manufactured by different companies - who ever gets the contract, can be your best bet when fighting a tight barrel. + actually shooting and using your bore will loosen it up some.

another 2 cents.... wish the keyboard had a cent symbol....

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Yeah,there's NO STANDARD set for bore size in black powder guns. My Prohunter has a smooth bore and loads easy. I just got lucky,I guess.

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rks1949

You know I am not so sure of that.... Every company that makes barrels makes some really good barrels, a lotaverage barrels, and some not so good... It is just the old bell curve in action... I am sure thequality and the bore of yourPro-hunterbarrel is probably a higher standard than my Omega... and the price you and I paid for our guns reflects that higher quality.

just a thought...

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Here's all ya need! I've used it for years in my varmit rifles. It won't hurt the bore,and reaslly cleans the bore up,making the fouling problem less. http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d86/rks1949/JBBoreShine.jpg

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Try this,works great! Whoops!2 times!

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Thanks everyone for youradvice. Thanks, lemoyne and sabotloader for your kind offers of bullets for me to try. Wife and i are going to OKC today and i will get some sabots there.