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A.D.D. BOY 12-24-2006 09:13 AM

SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
Same bullet I know but im hearing all this stuff about no blood trails from the shockwaves, is it the same for the sst's?

asphaltman 12-24-2006 09:29 AM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
I shoot sst's and it leaves a blood trail ray charles could follow!

tcuser 12-24-2006 09:43 AM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
I have shot and seen ones shot with both sst's and shockwaves the 4 guys in my group all use one or the other, from 20 yards all the way up to 119 yards and so far and the blood trails were pretty good for both, aslong as you put it in the boiler room blood will be shooting out, they are a good hunting bullet and fly true..good luck

sabotloader 12-24-2006 11:01 AM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
A.D.D. BOY

I have to tell you right off the top - I have shot them at paper but I have never used them to hunt with. From all the information that i have read on all the sites I visit - a lot of people love-em - a lot of people hate-em...

My evaluation of the SST/Shockwave, for what it is worth. It is an excellent long range bullet - it certainly has the BC for it, but it is a mediocre bullet at closer ranges... Believe me the animal is dead but he/she just doesn't know it. But some yards down the road he/she will know it.... My theory is that the SST/SW is in and out of the animal before it really can expand to it's fullest, it is in and out because of the velocity we are shooting and the toughness of the bullet.The most often report I have read is in-out holes about the same - Unless a major bone is encounteredon the way in or out.

As an example, I have been shooting a 10mm 200 grain XTP, a kinda relation to the SST/SW 200 grain. That bullet is one heck of a damage causer whether it hits a bone or not at close range - but I can not shoot it as far as the SST/SW and maintain the same ballistics. It is a great performer to 150 yards - but after that the SST/SW will out perform it.

Just my two cents...





cayugad 12-24-2006 11:13 AM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
as I posted in a different thread..

Well I have read a lot of posts by manydifferent people about Shockwaves. One poster in particular and his wife hunt all over the USA and Canada not to mention other countries. They hunt moose, elk, deer, you name it. And the results the simple standard 250 grainshockwaves have produced for him and his wife are very impressive. Not only wound channels, but knock downs, and distance shooting.

So my question would be, those that find the Shockwave a great bullet... what are they doing that the others are not? Do you write it off to, those people are just lucky all the time? Perhaps it has something to do with the speed they are pushing the projectile or shot placement. I really do not know. I do know that they shoot very well out of my rifles and because of that I can with practice, put that bullet in a good spot where it will do the most damage. I just wish the deer would let me experiment more.

Roskoe 12-24-2006 11:21 AM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
I must admit that I have not had much in the way of blood trails with the three elk I have killed with Shockwaves. Good news is that the elk were all laying dead within 50 yards or lessof where they were shot. I use 130 grains of Pyrodex pellets behind this bullet.

SHills 12-24-2006 04:38 PM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
SST's and shockwqaves are in and out for me. Powerbelts give pretty decent expansion but they haven fallen apartmore than I like. Best killing bullet has been the XTP for me. Best shot was 130 yrds w/ a 240 grain XTP w/ 80 grains of Goex BP w/a the TC Thunderhawk. The 9 pointer ran another 30 yrds deeper into the swamp. It took me 3hrs to draghim out to where I could gut'um.
Shills

A.D.D. BOY 12-24-2006 05:52 PM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
Well i got my recipts, im gona return both boxes of bullets i bought. And go up to the last store tuesday. Which is also the biggest. And thats where i got the origanl shockwaves. Gona but them and hopefully i can tell you how i did on a deer with them . So wish me luck guys.

mouthcaller 12-24-2006 08:59 PM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
Didn't likethe SSTs after shooting them lastyear because of no blood. Killed two deer, lost another one. Exit holes about the same size as the entrance holes. Also the bullets are expensive. I might give them another go next year after thinking that they may need to be pushed faster than I was with two 50 gr. 777 pellets. I now shoot 115gr of 777 which is a faster load.

This year I switched to Speer Gold Dots, 300gr. Taken two deer so far and neither one moved a muscle. One was a 140 yard high shoulder shot taking outspine. The other was a facing shoton a large doe that entered at the base of the neck and tranversed the entire length of the animal. I recovered that bullet and the results were pretty impressive.See below

http://webpages.charter.net/tlovell/DSCN1952.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/tlovell/DSCN1955.jpg

HammytheHunter 12-24-2006 09:02 PM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
I shoot .45 Shockwaves (not the new style) and last night, they produced an amazing blood trail. Deer only ran 20 yards so I knew where he was, but I still picked up the trail to see how good it was. So I don't know, I seem to think they leave a good one if the shot is right.

nchawkeye 12-24-2006 09:36 PM

RE: SST and Shockwave blood trails?
 
I have killed, or cleaned deer killed with round balls, the Hornady .300 gr XTP, the Barnes 300 Copper, the 295 Hollowpoint PowerBelts and the 250 SSTs...What the SST bullets give you is a better bc, so you can take longer shots...Hunting over fields over eastern NC, the SST is a good choice....The other bullets don't "carry" as well....But, think about it a sharp, sleek design is great for cutting through the air, but not for quick expansion at muzzleloader speed....In fact, some of the prettiest expanding projectiles are the round ball and the PowerBelts....But, they aren't reliable when it comes to exit wounds...

I have killed 7-8 deer with the SST, myself....They group into one ragged hole at 100 yards, and sighted in 2 1/2 inches high at 100, they are 2 1/2 low at 150...A PowerBelt doesn't come close, neither does the Barnes 300 copper, at least not in my gun....So I use the shoulder blade to help the SST open up....Every deer I have hit with these bullets have dropped....Not because its such a great bullet, but because of where I have hit them....I use the SSTs because I can have an honest 150 yard shot and I know that I can put the bullet through the shoulder, and they will drop...

A buddy of mine also uses them...He hit a nice 10 pointer 2-3 years ago, range was only 35 yards or so...Hit behind the shoulder the buck ran 100 yards, very little blood, until we got 25 yards or so from him...The bullet exited, but the exit wasn't much larger than the entrance....After tracking that deer I started going for the high shoulder shot....

Another buddy and my brother have used 295 PowerBelts...As we have seen from other posts, impressive mushrooming, seldom exit, until you get 100 yards or so from the gun and velocity has slowed...My buddy still uses them, basically because he doesn't take shots past 100 yards and they load easy...

I used the 300 gr Barnes all copper for several years, my gun wouldn't group the 250, but, my brother's loves the 250 Barnes....Frankly these are great bullets, I'm suprised more don't use them...I guess $$$ is the reason...They will exit and they do mushroom...But, in my gun sighted in 2 1/2 high at 100, they were about 7-8 inches low at 150 (using 100 grains or Pyrodex R-S)...I killed 5-6 deer with these and brother another 2-3...If 125 yards would be my longest shot, these would be the bullets I shot....

Those are my observations, put some thought into how each bullet is designed, ranges you are likely to have a shot and which bullets group well in your gun...
Good Luck...



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