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I'm getting the impression that the lower priced rifles like the Wolfs and New England firearms are still pretty decent rifles due to the fact that a muzzle loader is such a simple piece of equipment. For a begginer are these rifles sufficent to start with?

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Even though a muzzleloader might be a basic firearm, there are still differences in quality of parts, barrels, fit of hardward, smoothness of bore, type of rifling, kind of rifling, materials and fit of stocks... etc. So while it might look simple, there are more differences then many people consider.

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Yes a low priced gun would work for a begginer. I have 2 low priced guns a NEF hertage and a traditions evolution. They both are alright rifles but I wish I would have saved my money and bought a better rifle like a T/C or a knight. If you are sure you want to get into black powder and you have the money, My sugestion would be to get a rifle that is a litle more than the entry level rifle. But that is just my 2 cents.

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Gee thanks Muzzleman! Arggh! That is exactly the kind of guy I am but my wife is sitting right next to me. She was with me the other night at Bass Pro and I showed her the Omega that was running 660.00, she did think it was a purrty rifle til she saw the price tag. Now I am showing her the Wolf and NEF and she's not cringing so much. I guess I could get a better rifle but she'd recognize that Omega for sure.

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If you keep looking around you will find that alot of rifles are going to be on sale soon. (getting rid of the 06's and making room for the 07's). If you do get a omega or any rifle for that matter try to find one in a store by you that you can look at first hand. Some rifles just dont seem to fit some people. Then you can look online for the best price. Thats what I do.

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I have a CVA Kodiak. Its not a high end gun but seems to work just fine. I agree with Wimuzzleman... as the season is coming to a close in many areas, there should be plenty of sales. People seem to be pretty high on the Winchester Apex and its on sale at Cabela's right now for $199.00. Make sure you know with what type of smokepole your state will allow you to hunt. Have fun!

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PecoSanchez

Check these prices out on an Omega and he will mail it right to your house...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36_440/sort/3a/page/3

You can get a z5 for $250

pretty decent ML'er

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When I went to the site and clicked to place an order it says they only ship firearms to a FFL dealer. Gonna call tomorrow.

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Are you in one of the following State? HI, IL, MA, MI, NJ, NY. They may have special restrictions on MLs. Let us know.

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I bought a omega last year with a synthetic thumb hole stock and stainless steel barrel for under $400 out the door at dicks sporting goods in rochester, NY so if you look around there are some deals. My friend bought the Z5 omega and he loves it and it shoots just as good as mine, if you can get one for 250 jump all over it that is a great deal.

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I am in Texas

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They should be able to ship it directly to you unless its a company policy to send everything to a FFL.

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PecoSanchez

That is true for centerfire weapons - muzzleloaders do not qualify so they can ship it right to your house....

Oh! you know what - the Optima and the Encore - qualify because you can put centerfire barrels on them... Do you know somebody with a FFL in your area?

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The problem is I Just moved here so I don't have residency.

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The first in line muzzleloader i ever bought is a cheap old CVA Staghorn. It has a Nikon Pro-Staff four power scope on it.This cheap gunshoots as well as any other inline ever made. It is also very light.This gun has killed a bunch of hogs and deer for meand i often hunt with it.

Gun and scope cost about $190.

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I would go and buy the Winchester Apex at Cabela's on sale for about the same price as that NEF or Wolf. They're both great guns but the Apex has all of the great upgrades. I bought one in stainless/black for 200 bucks and am sure I'll be perfectly satisfied once it arrives. I always said I'd get a T/C or Knight but I honestly like the Winchester better and think I got the best deal.

By the way, I'd get the NEF over the Wolf in a heartbeat if I was you. I think it's a much better gun for the money. That's my 2 cents worth.