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Encore50 12-12-2006 08:07 PM

How long will powder stay good?
 
Have1-1/2 boxes of 777 50gr pellets left over from last year. Will these stay OK for a long or short period of time? Whats the time limit if there is such? Help me out here Cayuqad!!

cayugad 12-12-2006 08:13 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
The main thing is how well they are stored. I always store them in the original container, in a cool dry place. I also make sure they have no contamination. I have a box of Pyrodex Pellets that are now pushing over one year old, and I was shooting some of them the other day with just fine results.

The main thing with any powder, dry, cool place, original container, and something to absorb moisture would not hurt but not necessary. I have them in an original cardboard case that they shipped Goex to me. All my powders are stored in them boxes.

rks1949 12-12-2006 08:14 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
If kept in a dry,cool place they should be alright. I buy 777 every year at the end of hunting season when it goes on sale. This year I'm shooting last years stock,and there is no noticable diffrence in performance at all. I think if the pellets are still sealed they would be the same.

Encore50 12-12-2006 08:28 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
Thanks for the response. That'sexactly the way Istored this powder. Been kept in a cool-dry location.Both were bought last year although I just opened the second box a month ago. Hopefully I will seesmoke and hear a loud boom tomorrow if I get a shot.

Gruntr Huntr 12-16-2006 02:18 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
Blackpowder will still be good years and years from now if it's kept dry! I have read of instances where old muzzleloaders were found in attics, etc. where they had been stored for years and they still had a load in them that was good. I'm certainly not suggesting anyone should try firing any gun in that condition because there are obviously other considerations to take into account, I'm just relating what I've read!

lemoyne 12-16-2006 02:25 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
If you have a moisture removing mechanism in your gun safe,and keep your powder thereyou can keepPyrodex or blackfor years.Lee

sproulman 12-17-2006 06:46 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
i have powder from 1970,geox 2f..the price is still on can 3 dollars and 95 cents,a can..i still use those cans ..i do turn them upside down every other year..

i was always told that helps..keep can full helps too..so, powder can go 36 years and going..

HoleHopper 12-18-2006 12:02 AM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
Will ziplock bags help? That is what I keep it in.

alsaqr 12-18-2006 05:57 AM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
Never had a powder or ammunition storage issue until now. i have some oldround Clean Shot sticks thatsmell like brown sugar after storage for about four years. Willshoot them up next trip to the range.

Rebel Hog 12-18-2006 07:37 AM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
As long as it's Black and smells like Ether. When it loses it's smell and turns grey, chance's are it's no good. Likeothers have mentioned, storage is the main factor. I have Gorex and Pyrodex which areyears old and still hasa strong Oderand Black color.

Rebel Hog 12-18-2006 07:39 AM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 

ORIGINAL: HoleHopper

Will ziplock bags help? That is what I keep it in.
ZipLock bags create moisture!

HD Road King 12-18-2006 10:18 AM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
So if you don't have access to a cool area, what would be the next best storage solution? We sold our home a couple years ago and are right now living in an apartment, so no more basement storage area available. Would refrigeration cause condensation when removing from fridge or is it best then to just store in a closet? Would it be best then in this type of situation to start with a fresh can before each new deer season?

Mike

sproulman 12-18-2006 02:58 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 

ORIGINAL: HD Road King

So if you don't have access to a cool area, what would be the next best storage solution? We sold our home a couple years ago and are right now living in an apartment, so no more basement storage area available. Would refrigeration cause condensation when removing from fridge or is it best then to just store in a closet? Would it be best then in this type of situation to start with a fresh can before each new deer season?

Mike
my gun room was always my bedroom..i stored powder there for 32 years until i built my home..now its in basement ,but basement are humid,so i use dehumidifier..powder is fine for all that time..i also have hr3031,4895,4320,4350, from 36 years ago, still good too..

you may say, sproul you had powder all those years, 32 out of 36 next to your bed?

yep..

HD Road King 12-18-2006 03:38 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
Hey, Thats OK as long as you are a non smoker, or at least didn't smoke in bed.;)That could have probably been a very rude awakening!

Mike

sproulman 12-18-2006 05:05 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
yes

HD Road King 12-18-2006 05:18 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
Actually, mine will also be within three feet of the bed or possibly under the bed. I am just not going to mention that part to my Wife, she would say the powder needs to be down in the garage. If a fire should start in the apartment below us, it might just make for a very interesting news story.;)

Mike

sproulman 12-18-2006 05:27 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
you can get fire proof box for powder..i saw 1 at the gun shop..they have new rules on storing powder at gun shops now..with kids/wife coming into unlocked room, i would have powder in locked box made for protecting it..

it seems today that people seem to have more accidents and more problems than when i grew up..

someone might chime in with where you can get box that would work and not cost a lot..good luck..



cayugad 12-18-2006 05:43 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
There is really nothing all that special about storing powder. As long as it is dry, no sparks or direct heatand does not get real hot where the powder is. I have even stored powder in my wood stove room with no ill effects. That room normally runs 80ºs and the stove keeps all the humidity out of the room. Powder shot fine after a long time in that room. Main thing is keep it out of the reach of those that might not understand the danger it does pose, and keep it dry. There really should not be all that big a problem.

One thing to keep in mind.. some of your homeowner or renter's insurance policies do not allow the storage of explosives inside the residence. Black Powder is an explosive. They do notlike the idea of powder being stored in the home. You might want to check with your insurance agent and mention to them that you have black powder or substitute powder stored in house or on the premise. See what they have to say. Or take your chances and if there is a fire, have it in a bag you can grab as you run out the door.

HD Road King 12-18-2006 06:18 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
That is a good point Dave,
I had better check our renters insurance policy. I don't think that I want to inquire with the management or my agent, that would probably raise some eyebrows. I think that I will just read about that one.

I don't know which way would be better as far as if there is a fire in an apartment complex. Let it burn up and hope that they do not point fingers or grab that bag. That method just involve some explanation to the DEA as to why you came running out of the building with a bag of powder!

How bad would it be to store powder in a garage, if one was forced to do so? The garage that we have here is a semi heated garage, it probably hangs around the 45 degree mark during the Winter Months. Would the rise and fall of temperatures when the garage door opens and closes possibly cause to great of a chance of condensation?

Now, I wish that we had not sold our home two years ago. The management there was pretty easy going. This might give me more ammunition for convincing my Wife that we need to move North sooner than we had first planned.

I would hate to have to purchasesome type of fireproof vault just for storing black powder in. Although I would give anything to see the faces of someone that decided to steal that safe. I would guess that would be quite a surprise once they get it open:)

Maybe I should just resort back to plan (A) and use the wow! I did not realize that I could not store that stuff in here.;)I guess that I could go down to Sams Club and buy some bulk black pepper containers, that should be cheaper than a vault.

Mike

cayugad 12-18-2006 07:26 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
ignorance is sometimes a blessing...:D Personally I have never stored my powder in an area where it is that cold. The main thing would be that the place is not humid. Humidity is the true enemy of powder. As for the cold, well I would guess that there are a lot of warehouses out there that are cold and not heated where powders are stored. 45 degrees would not worry me. The only reason I do not store it in my woodworking shop year round is I seal the windows in the winter and it gets real humid in there with snow melting on the floors, etc.. The windows are always fogged over.

HD Road King 12-18-2006 07:35 PM

RE: How long will powder stay good?
 
Another good point,
Although my garage is maintained at around 45 degrees that is probably not a good thing for the powder in snowy States. I was not taking into account the snow that is constantly dragged into the garage with the car. Thanks for bringing that up. I think that I had better go with closet route and just hope the building has a very good sprinkler system.

Mike


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