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uckayak2_mn 11-30-2006 01:39 PM

Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
How well do peep sights work in heavy brushy woods? I live in MN and we have heavy poplar type forests here. Just curious how hard it is to pick up a target with the peep sight. I have used them out at the range and really liked them. I have always shot open sight while hunting but have seen posts about them on their accuracy. I was just hoping to find some input on them before I make any changes.

Thanks,
Mike[/align]

tcuser 11-30-2006 02:29 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
I really think you would be better off with 1x by 4 or something its much easier for me to put crosshairs on my traget then line up peep sights...but that just me, I have shot deer in thick cover with my 3x9-40 and had no probs even with a 3 power..

uckayak2_mn 11-30-2006 02:45 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
Thanks TCuser,
I would just stick with the open sites over the scope idea. That is just a personal preference of mine though. The woods where we hunt is very thick and I have tried picking up targets with a Scope and it was just not for me. Although off of a stand, it would be okay. I also like to move around during the day and trying to pick one up on the move would be tough where we are. I was mostly wondering about the peep style. Some of the posts that I have read in the archives mention how well some users thought they worked but they did not really mention type of cover.

Thanks again

Red Lion 11-30-2006 02:46 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
Hey I am from MN as well! I can relate with the thick cover stuff. A peep sight can be very accurate, as you know at the range, but not as easy to pick things up as standard open sights. A scope is obviously more accurate, but is not better picking up targest, quickly, over a peep sight. If you practice acquiring targets with the peep, you can pick them up relatively fast, at least as fast as a scope.
If you are hunting real thick stuff and need very quick shots, I would suggest going back to the traditional open sights and just practice more, as they can still be very accurate, to 100 yards inspite of what you might have read. A 1.5x4.5 power scope would be a good power for a scope, if you go that route. Good luck!

Wimuzzleman 11-30-2006 03:00 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
I live in wisconsin but i sometimes hunt the thick mountain tops of Pa. I have a NEF heritage with a lymans peep on it and a rem model 7600 in .270 with a williams peep in it.I love them. I think they are the best thing to use in thick cover. You have a great field of view and with a little practice you can aquire your target very easily. Also they work great if you like to still hunt and track deer like I do. Running shots are no problem with them. The only downside to them is they sit a little higher than open sights and they can get caught on the brush a little easier.

lemoyne 11-30-2006 03:42 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
If you prefer irons then check out a " Ghost Ring " that is what works the best in thickets or a 1 X4 X32 scope.

HEAD0001 11-30-2006 03:57 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
Just get a different aperture for your sight. I like the peep sight better-just like you. In low light situations just screw off your target aperture, and screw on a larger hunting aperture. It will also let more light through.

Also it will not change your POI-you are still centered. I like it alot more than the regular open sight in low light. Tom.

uckayak2_mn 11-30-2006 04:29 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
Thanks again everyone for the ideas,
The only style of deer hunting in the woods that I have ever done was with open sights. I do not mind continuing using them if the peeps are not a good choice for a sight. We were using my Son in laws AR-15 this past weekend and it uses the peep style sight. I noticed that they were quite easy to pick up the target very quickly on the range. I figured that if the military were putting them on their guns that it might be worth looking into for my use. Red Lion & WImuzzleman thanks for the replies, you are very familiar with the exact type of cover that I am describing, thanks again. The only time that I have personally used the peep was on my .22 for squirrel and rabbit hunting, it was a very accurate style sight.

Thanks again for the information!

Mike

I will check out this ghost ring style sight and see what it looks like. Head0001, I now remember a Williams peep on my .22 having a few different style aperatures that could be changed out. Thanks for mentioning this. I guess that does answer my question right there. I could use the peep style while stand hunting and switch over in seconds for stalking. Thank you! What style peep are you using and are you happy with it?

HEAD0001 11-30-2006 10:38 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
Williams target style, and Lyman 66's. Tom.

txhunter58 12-01-2006 05:33 AM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
I have the Williams peep and ordered a "twilight" peep directly fromWilliams (about $10) It has a brass ring on the back of the peep that helps you pick it up in low light. they also have different sized appetures and I get the biggest they have.

zuren1cs 12-01-2006 10:25 AM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
I'm not sure a peep sight would be much better than a low powered scope in heavy cover. The BP gun I ordered will have a scope, but I use open sights on my shotgun when I know I'm going to be in the heavy stuff and I the open sights underneath the scope on my .270 for quick heavy cover shots.

gelarson 12-01-2006 10:44 AM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
I use peeps on my Hawkens and for the most part I enjoy them. In thick bush in low light I had to quite hunting approx 45 min before the end of the shooting day due to it being too dark for the aperature. I will go back to Irons for this reason alone. A majority of my hunting in thick stuff and though a larger peep would work better, it is far from the iron sights.

I still love peeps for accuracy though.
Eric

lemoyne 12-01-2006 12:49 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
gelarson, I guess thats a matter of eyes and opinion; I am 70 and my eyes are not what they used to be but I can shoot a ghost ring awhile after the light stops me with irons. You are right as far as regular peeps are concerned. Lee

uckayak2_mn 12-01-2006 02:07 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
Thanks again everyone,
This forum sure is very helpful! I am going with the Williams sight Breech mount model FP. I really like the idea of switchable appertures for different lighting conditions. This will be great for stand hunting and stalking, very quick changes.

Mike

alleyyooper 12-02-2006 04:37 PM

RE: Peep Sights in heavy woods???
 
I have used a peep sight in4 to 5 year oldsecond growth clear cuts. It was a Lyman fold downtang mounted with the big ampture. Learned to use it with both eyes open and worked great. I now have one on my Hawkins and once again I can shoot and hit withit and my old eyes
You might also want to install a fiber optic front sight to help during low light.
Once you install the peep pratice useing it on moving birds and such to get used to it.

:)Al


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