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Omega owners have this issue?
I was on hpmuzzleloading just for kicks and came across this artical. Kind of scary actually. Anyone having this problem with the breech plug? http://hpmuzzleloading.com/industry.html
T/C Encore, Contender G2and Omega |
RE: Omega owners have this issue?
that's an interesting problem. Have any of the Omega and Encore owners on this forum experienced this? I just checked my rifles and they are fine.
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RE: Omega owners have this issue?
I shoot an Omega,I have fired so many rounds in it that the tourch hole is inlarged like when you use up a nipple and I changed breach plugs. I inspected both plugs and they show nothing like whats in that picture; I normally use 150 gr of RS or pellets orAPP FF with a 200gr SW or 130 with a 250 gr SW.
What appears to be flame cutting in that pic. could be a maching problem or just a defective piece of metal, I for one am not worried about it,if it does happen that something shows a defect TC always makes it good. Lee |
RE: Omega owners have this issue?
frontier gander
Read the article sometime back - checked both of my Omega plugs no sign of this problem. Gas cutting is/will accour everytime you shoot - how much it effects your breech plug and the threads that hold the plug are dependent on the hardness and the seal you achieve between the BP and the BP chamber. If you are getting blow-back onto the threads of your BP then again you may be getting some gas cutting. Doc White once told me to what hardness his breech plugs are brought to - it was a ridiculously high number - to prevent gas cutting. Whether we believe Toby Bridges about his Savage blow up or not is for you to detirmine, but he did believe the problem occurred because of gas cutting in a gun that he had thousands of rounds through it. Gives more credence to care inspecting your gun each time you clean and each part you clean. |
RE: Omega owners have this issue?
Toby Bridges is trying to make some mountain out of a molehill and sell more of those alternative plugs and veri-flame adapters.
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RE: Omega owners have this issue?
Thank you for the link. Cannot understandwhat the problem is here.My new Encore has been fired over 150 times with light, medium and heavy loads of Pyrodex pellets, Pyrodex RS, and Jim Shockeys Gold. When my breech plug is properly cleanedit looks like it did when it was new.
The "eroded" breech plug in the photo is notproperly cleaned. Strange that the guy never showed us what the "eroded" breech plug looked likeafter a good cleaning. Jim Shockeys Gold does leave some kind of white looking residue in the hole under the primer. The stuff seems to "grow" if it is not all gotten out. i use pipe cleaners and really clean inside of the plug. i amreluctant to pay a bunch of money in order to use small rifle primers in some kind of expensive contraption in order tosolve a non-problem. |
RE: Omega owners have this issue?
Did any of you ever wonder how much stuff you buy to fill a non-existant need created by one of these peddlers?
I bet you would be shocked if you knew how many regularly vist here, I bet I would be to. Lee |
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actually it must be a problem. i remember a couple months back some1 was asking about it and has pictures of his breechplug. I'll have to see if i can find it.
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It is the very last post on this thread. Someone visited the Toby article.
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RE: Omega owners have this issue?
Like lemoyne, I have had some enlarging of the flame hole on my BP, but nothing more.
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After reading this thread.. I checked my breech plug while I was cleaning my Omega the other day. And I do have 2 small gas cuts. I don't think it's much of an issue.. but they are there... I will take pics next time I have it apart. I have about 60-70 shots through this gun. I've use 777 2f powder since day one... and Remington Kleanbore primers (last year)and Winchester 777 primers (this year).
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RE: Omega owners have this issue?
Google up Toby Bridges and find out that he works for Markesbery M/L or is sponsored by them. Mr. Bridges worked for Savage promoting their M/L. He got into a urinating contest with the inventer of the rifle, got into trouble with the law and was fired by Savage.Mr. Bridges had a Savage muzzleloader "blow up" after his firing. Mr. Bridges was also dropped by Pedersoli.
My Encore shows no "gas cutting" or anything else after 150 shots. Plug looks new. Even if there is some "gas cutting" it is not a big deal. Think about all those, spring loaded-bolt firedinlines out there that use 209 primers. They get a lot of gas leakage around the primer and nothing bad happens. We need to check out these "experts"before we buy their Kool Aid. |
RE: Omega owners have this issue?
ORIGINAL: cayugad that's an interesting problem. Have any of the Omega and Encore owners on this forum experienced this? I just checked my rifles and they are fine. |
RE: Omega owners have this issue?
Just checked mine and it seems fine but i'll watch for it
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RE: Omega owners have this issue?
Checked both of my T/C's , have fired several hundred rounds through both the Encore and the Omega and the breechplugs show look like new . the Omega is 5 years old and the Encore is 3 1/2 years old .
Charlie |
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