Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

Finally got my scope dialed in and shooting good. Thanks all that helped with that one. Noticed that during my sessions that my first and 2nd shot accuracy is not good. Today here is my shot sequence.

1st6" right, 3"high
2nd 5" right 0"high
3rd bullseye
4th bullseye
ran wet patch and dry patch
5th bullseye
6th bullseye
7th missfire
ran wet patch and dry patch
8th right on
9th right on

Any tips or suggestions on 1st and 2nd shot accuracy? I cannot be the only one this happens to Looking Back has been doing that since i started sighting in the scope.

Did notice that I have some powder flakes in the barrel when swabbing it out, guessing I need a hotter primer. Any suggestions there? I am using 150 gr of Shockeys gold pellets

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

Try a fouling shot first .

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

Or change powder.

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

Kevin I believe has it right, before you shoot next time take 30 grains of the loose powder... if your shooting pellets then one pellet you might need to waste, and put that down the barrel. You can then push a sabot on top of the powder or some wads and take the rifle and shoot it off. Be careful, that wad or sabot is still dangerous.

Then I DO NOT swab the barrel but leave it dirty. I pop one more 209 primer through it to blow the breech plug clear and any loose powder hanging on the barrel out the muzzle and load. This should make your shots more alike.

Now I do not recommend this but I have a friend that after he loads his rifle sabotfor the first shot, will actually take a patch with a small amount of bore butter, and swab the barrel. He claims that helps the first shot be like all the others. He also says this way he does not fowl the barrel and can hunt all season if he gets no shot without unloading the rifle... take this for what you like, try it if you like. My friend claims this makes the first shot hit almost the same spot at 100 yards as the second and third shot.

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This is pretty much the same experience I had with loose 2F Jim Shockey Gold (see post from a couple of weeks back). It shoots off (usually high) on the first shot. After a couple of fouling shots it settles in and remains very consistent. You do not want to swab with this powder - groups are better and more consistent without any swabbing whatsoever. I also got misfires, stuck primers,and wild chronograph readings when swabbing.

And the good news is that, at least as I understand it, the powder is not very corrosive and you don't need to clean with any level of urgency. I left mine fouled and shot it over a period of about a week. Every shot from a fouled cold barrel was right on the money. Pretty low maintenance stuff.

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What is it with American Pioneer Powder and the swabbing thing? I still have not figured out how to get the 3f to shoot accurate. It will lay a couple in there real nice and then all of a sudden throw them all over the place.

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

Roskoe having the same things happen to me, 2 weak fires, stuck primers, never happened before. Only reason I swabbed was it got extremly hard to load the bullet.But shots after sawbbing are as good as the ones before. Thinking with the powder residue, a hotter primer might get more powder burnt up and making it easier to load after the 4 or 5th shots.

Any recommendations on a better primer??

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

I was just using the regular Remington Kleenbore's. What bullet are you using? Do they seat hard with other powders?

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

I am using the remington primers too. They seem to seat without any problem but sometimes it feels like the pellets are breaking up as I seat the bullet but I cannot say it has changed anything with the shot accuracy.

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

I have never used the APP pellets, but the loose stuff is working pretty well. Somewhere I read that these pellets are kinda crumbly - and may have significant variations in weight. I'm also seating my bullets pretty firmly against the charge.

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Cayugad - I have a friend (an mechanical engineer no less) who does the same thing. The only downside to this I have seen is that velocities run 100 fps or more slower than when fired through a clean dry bore.

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

setter77,any oil residue can cause this type of problem. Lee

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

I have not been oiling the barrel as I have been shooting it once or twice a week.

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

I foul my barrel with a small amount of powder and no bullet before the first shot. Simply point it upward andpop a cap. However, I use pryodex, and swab between each shot anyway, so after I foul it, I run a spit and dry patch down before I load for the first shot or go hunting. Pretty consistent for me.

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

I am having the same troubles.
First shot floats 8" high
then the rest are dead zero

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

Today shooting Black Mag 3 out of my White Ultra Mag .504 with 460 grain conicals and 70 grains of the BM3 powder, it was the first time my rifle shot to the same place at 50 yards on a clean barrel or fowled barrel. All I did was leave thecoating of Sheath in the bore of the barrel. I pushed a dry patch down to the bottom and popped one RWS #11 cap. It burned the patch good so I knew I had fire. From there I loaded and shot. All the hits were in the same place.

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

A lot depends upon the individual rifle and load so far as cold and clean impact vs a fouled barrel shot. Did a bit of testing just a couple of days ago to check my Ultra Mag's performance in that regard.

I had changed bullets from a 496 grainer down to a 460 grain Bull Shop so the scope needed some adjustment but...



all shots at 100 yards.

RE: Cold barrel accuracy????? How do you get it??
 

I also use Sheath it will put the frist shot in my gun to the point of aim with RS or with APP FF; I scrub till completely clean with hot soapy water wet a patch with Sheath and put a light coat on the boar,when ready to hunt I just load and go as I have tried this out at the range many times; remembering that each gun is an individual I would suggest that you do your own test to check what your gun does. Lee