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kjclark7 11-12-2002 03:27 PM

Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
i'm in the market for a new muzzleloader and i dont know which one to get. i like how both feel in my hands. just can't decide. any info would be appreciated on the pros and cons on each one. i know that the encore is about $80-$100 more money. if you have either one, tell me what you like or don't like about it. thanks.

kevin

non-typical1 11-12-2002 04:09 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
i have a encore and would recommend it to everyone.my buddy & my dad have the omega & cant get them to shoot.i upped my charge from 110 to 120 of T7 and w/250 barnes get 3/4" @ 100yds.(was 1.5")i dont know of anyone else who has the omega.all guns are 50's.and topped w/leupolds.they have tried pellets powder and dozens of bullets and cant get better than 3". the feel of the encore also is the best for offhand.you can also get rifle barrels for it.a guy at the range sun. had an encore in 300 rum w/28" brl., let me shoot it, what a gun!! well as you see i have nothing bad to say about the encore, its worth the extra $$.
PETE

GUN CONTROL IS HITTING WHAT YOU AIM AT!!

Tikka 300 11-12-2002 11:17 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
non-typical1,
do you know where your friend got a 300 rum for an encore. Is it custom made? TC doesn't sell them so I was wondering where a guy could pick one up!

Tikka Hunter

epic 11-13-2002 06:48 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
I thought that the action of the Omega is pretty ingenious, so I bought one. I sure haven't had any trouble getting it to shoot. It is my first and only blackpowder rifle though, so I can't say how it compares to the Encore.

Winger 11-13-2002 08:05 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
I bought an Encore this summer. My friend bought an Omega. We both had no problem getting them to shoot. I am shooting 2 50 gr. pellets and 250 gr. Barnes, getting sub-1" groups. My friend is shooting loose powder, Pyro Select, not sure of the grainage, with 240 gr. T/C XTP and getting something less than 1.5" groups. Our season this year was drizzly and wet. We both hunted a couple of times in pouring rain. Both the guns allowed water to get down in the actions to some degree. Both guns went boom with no hesitation, every time. I am very, very happy with my Encore and he is likewise with his Omega. In the Encore's corner, I feel its extra cost is offset by its versatility with other barrels, retaining more value, etc. The Omega is easier to clean, as the breech plug can be removed without disassembly (I am pretty sure). The Encore must be broken down, so as to remove the primer extractor and gain access to breech plug removal. However, once taken apart a couple of times, it is quite easy and takes little time to do so.

Bottom line, I am glad I went with the Encore. I think it is worth the extra cost for reasons stated above. You would most likely be very happy with an Encore. However, as pure inlines go, I think the Omega is a fine gun and wouldn't be a bad purchase either.

Just my thoughts ...

Winger

Underclocked 11-13-2002 10:13 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
Winger, just a little tip for ya. Take out that extractor and leave it stored somewhere. You'll find the primers to be very easily removed with just your fingers unless your Encore is an exception.

I would suggest that if you buy either rifle, get the .50 caliber variant. The .45s are extremely finicky from my own experience with a .45 Encore. The 1:28" twist of the .50 seems better suited to a wider range of bullets in that particular rifle. My White .45 will shoot most anything pretty well and is a 1:20" twist just like the T/C .45s.

non-typical1 11-16-2002 08:55 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
tikka, if im not mistaken he told me it was a shilen barrel. it had a muzz. brake which made the barrel total 31" and the gun still looked compact. hope this helps
PETE

GUN CONTROL IS HITTING WHAT YOU AIM AT!!

kjclark7 11-18-2002 03:32 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
i think i am going to get the encore. just have to save up my money now or hope for an early christmas present thats all. i guess i'm going with it cause of the way it shoots, accuracy i mean. hope i get it soon before the season starts. any tips on how many grain bullet i should use...i'm new to blackpowder.

kevin

midwestxpress 11-18-2002 04:59 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
T/C advertises the Encore with the 240gr. sabot. They claim outstanding shot groups. In their catalog for 2002 there is a picture of a shot group using 3(50gr.)Pyrodex pellets and the 240gr.XTP Bullet. It is so tight you would think it was fired from a rifle.


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maytom 11-28-2002 10:18 AM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
Now that we can use scoped BP guns during that special season here in NY, I will now take the plunge like some of you and get one myself. I already handled the Encore in the store and it fits my hands perfectly!! I realize that it cost more money, but I really feel that your getting your money's worth with that model. I've also read the 2002 T/C catalog and spotted that pic of the group at 100 yards, one word.......impressive!! One thing for sure, they sure beat out a slug gun for accuracy!!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

&quot;Spring Season....the Best&quot;!!!

Edited by - maytom on 11/28/2002 11:19:22

mac454 11-28-2002 07:13 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
It looks like I'm the only one here so far that has both guns...the Encore and the Omega. They are both top shelf rifles and you can not go wrong with either one!
From my experiance, if you want to shoot heavy loads then Encore would be my preferance. I can handle the heavier charges easier with the Encore, because of the stock....it feels like a thumhole stock.
Now the Omega has shot tighter groups than the Encore but they both are fully capable of 200yd kills when you know the yardage and have a good solid rest.
My best load for both guns is 150 grs. of Pyrodex Pellets or Triple 7 and the Remington 289gr. Solid Copper Bullet. These Remington Solid Copper Bullets are a little hard to come by, but they've beat'n out the MZ's in all my rifles/pistols for accuracy. And I've put down a lot of deer with these so far.

I also have the .45 Omega. I haven't found a load that I can shoot 150gr. charges where I'm happy with the accuracy. I want 2&quot; or less at 100yds. My son will be using this next week for the Illinois Muzzleloader season. He'll be shooting 100grs. of Pyrodex Pellets and the 275gr. Power Belt. The 195gr. MZ is not legal in Ill for deer, but it is the most accurate bullet so far for this rifle.

I wrote to T.C. last week to see if they had a thumbhole stock coming out for the Omega. I was disappointed to here that they are not working on one. I sent Fox Ridge an e-mail right after that and I haven't had a responce from them yet on the thumbhole stock.

Keep it in the 10x
mac454

herman 11-29-2002 07:08 AM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
I would start with the top and get the encore because if you handle one you will allways be wanting one,not taking anything away from the omega,I have never shot one yet.I wouldn't get the encore in the 45
cal though untill they change the twist rate,I have one of those and it won't hit a bull in the a--.
If you click onthe link at the bottom of post you can see what the encore is capable of.

http://www.hunting-pictures.com/memb...ght&encore.jpg

round ball 11-29-2002 08:55 PM

RE: Encore vs. Omega.....which one is better???
 
won't say anything bad about a gun, I have an Encore 209x50 and think that it is one of the best guns that I have ever had and shot. I don't think that you can go wrong with one of them. Good luck with which ever one you get just rember the only way to be proficient with it is too Practice Practice Practice and be SAFE!!!!!! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>


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