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Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
As per Randy Wakeman, those yellow sabots being used to dress those Knight and Barnes Polymer-tip bullets were designed specifically for that bullet. Use of any other sabot may result in subpar performance/accuracy. In this specific case, the sabot was molded to fit the exact dimensions of the boat-tail.
We are entering a new arena with this news. There will obviously come a day when most-all bullet manufacturers will want their plastic sabots custom-tailored for their own bullet. Swapping sabot brands/modelsto achieve tighter loading or looser loading is now in Round One of being threatened with a slow fade-away. We have already begun to see this with ML manufacturers offering their own bullets. So if you wonder why your Powerbelt doesn't work superbly in a T/C -- or your Hornady SST wont get down that Autin-Halleck bore without a sweat & several grunts, wellwe are embarking on an ageto finding best accuracy with our new MLsusng both the same manufacturer ML - with the same manufacturer bullet offering on store shelves. Sometimes, those "custom' bullets may be found inside the new ML box - with a recommendation attached. Just some words to pass along.:eek: No need for replies -- I'll bump-up this thread for about a week.[:-] |
RE: Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
The new barnes spitfire 285 grain sabots I bought have those sabots you mention. And they are a real bear to load.
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RE: Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
Poster dvdegeorge on another forum stated the Barnes TMZ 250 was brutal to get down the Omega with those yellow jobbies. He stated having a noticeably easier time loading the Hornady SST & we all know the SST is harder-loading than it's sister T/C Shockwave.
Keep Your Powder Dry Folks . . . . . . . Joe [/i]  |
RE: Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
ORIGINAL: Triple Se7en As per Randy Wakeman, those yellow sabots being used to dress those Knight and Barnes Polymer-tip bullets were designed specifically for that bullet. Use of any other sabot may result in subpar performance/accuracy. In this specific case, the sabot was molded to fit the exact dimensions of the boat-tail. We are entering a new arena with this news. There will obviously come a day when most-all bullet manufacturers will want their plastic sabots custom-tailored for their own bullet. Swapping sabot brands/modelsto achieve tighter loading or looser loading is now in Round One of being threatened with a slow fade-away. We have already begun to see this with ML manufacturers offering their own bullets. So if you wonder why your Powerbelt doesn't work superbly in a T/C -- or your Hornady SST wont get down that Autin-Halleck bore without a sweat & several grunts, wellwe are embarking on an ageto finding best accuracy with our new MLsusng both the same manufacturer ML - with the same manufacturer bullet offering on store shelves. Sometimes, those "custom' bullets may be found inside the new ML box - with a recommendation attached. Just some words to pass along.:eek: No need for replies -- I'll bump-up this thread for about a week.[:-] As to the rest, You can blame the gun makers specifically. They can't seem to come up with a common bore diameter for every caliber. Some manufacturers bore diameters even vary widely from gun to gun.How are bullet makers supposed to know what diameter to make the bullet/sabot combos? They can't make a combo for every different borediameter. You'd see 3 or 4 different bore diameter versions for every bullet. |
RE: Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
I had trouble with the yellow sabots with the TMZs also. I tried HPH 24s and couldn't get any accuracy so just for the heck of it I tried a MMP sub base under a HPH 24 and they shot very well , 5/8 inch 50 yd group. I don't know why this worked, but it did. I used 120 grs of loose 777 and a Win 777 primer behind a 250 gr TMZ. I shoot an Omega. If anyone else tries this I would be interested in there results.
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RE: Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
ORIGINAL: mayguy I had trouble with the yellow sabots with the TMZs also. I tried HPH 24s and couldn't get any accuracy so just for the heck of it I tried a MMP sub base under a HPH 24 and they shot very well , 5/8 inch 50 yd group. I don't know why this worked, but it did. I used 120 grs of loose 777 and a Win 777 primer behind a 250 gr TMZ. I shoot an Omega. If anyone else tries this I would be interested in there results. There are ways to get around everything - I guess!;) [size=2] Keep Your Powder Dry Folks . . . . . . . Joe [/i] |
RE: Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
ORIGINAL: cayugad The new barnes spitfire 285 grain sabots I bought have those sabots you mention. And they are a real bear to load. |
RE: Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
AS long as you have flat based bullets you will be able to get separate sabots to "customize" them to your gun. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a thinner/thicker petaled "yellow" sabot is being made or at least thought about...
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RE: Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
ORIGINAL: Flatland Hunter AS long as you have flat based bullets you will be able to get separate sabots to "customize" them to your gun. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a thinner/thicker petaled "yellow" sabot is being made or at least thought about... Folks aremoaning & groaning loadingtheBarnes yellow sabot The same folks find it refreshingly easyto loadthe T/C yellow Superglide sabots. These yellow jackets are not new to MLingFor the lastthree years, I have seen Buffalobullets wearing a yellow sabot. So allow me to throw a monkey wrench into this double-sided equation by stating I think the Buffalo yellow jackets load about perfectly... snug - but without any shake-rattle or rolling.;) Keep Your Powder Dry Folks . . . . . . . Joe [/i] |
RE: Custom Sabotry Has Arrived
ORIGINAL: Triple Se7en ORIGINAL: Flatland Hunter AS long as you have flat based bullets you will be able to get separate sabots to "customize" them to your gun. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a thinner/thicker petaled "yellow" sabot is being made or at least thought about... Folks aremoaning & groaning loadingtheBarnes yellow sabot The same folks find it refreshingly easyto loadthe T/C yellow Superglide sabots. These yellow jackets are not new to MLingFor the lastthree years, I have seen Buffalobullets wearing a yellow sabot. So allow me to throw a monkey wrench into this double-sided equation by stating I think the Buffalo yellow jackets load about perfectly... snug - but without any shake-rattle or rolling.;) Keep Your Powder Dry Folks . . . . . . . Joe [/i] |
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